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"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:43:33 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

Uranium for instance can be safely kept in a cardboard box under the bed.

And breathing in the radon gas is not a hazard?

Depends on how well the room is ventilated.

The box could catch fire and poison you with CO.


You also forget that aside from the radioactive hazards of uranium,
it is a toxic metal.


That's why it needs a cardboard box.

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 18:57:33 +0000, Bambleweeny57 wrote:

nor the colour of the cat.

This is precisely what Comrade Deng Xiaoping said in 1961, at the Guangzhou
conference,

"I don't care if it's a white cat or a black cat.
It's a good cat so long as it catches mice."

and the reason why the People's Republic of China is no longer a
communist state. And yes, it is still an dictatorship.

In message , Java Jive
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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:03:15 +0100, Derek Geldard
wrote:

On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 10:52:07 +0100, Java Jive
wrote:

But how much energy did it take to build it? How much to mine the
ore, refine it (these in another country, so it doesn't appear in our
carbon account), ship it to the UK, maybe process it some more, 'burn'
it, make the waste safe for transport, transport it, process it, and
store it INDEFINITELY into the future,

Not true, in fact. All radioactive isotopes decay according to their
half lives. When they're gone, they're gone.

You clearly have no understanding of the definition and meaning of
half-life. The half-life is the amount of time that it takes for half
a given amount of radio-active substance to decay. What about the
other half? That takes half again, etc. So you end up with ...

1 1/2 1/4 1/8 etc

... of the original amount. A substance with half-life decay is thus
never truly 'gone'

If you start with a finite number of radioactive atoms you'll halve the
number every half-life period, at some point there'll be one atom left
and when that decays it's all gone.

--
bof at bof dot me dot uk

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[email protected] wrote:

Water has a very long half life but it is dangerous as in you can drown in
it.
Is this the type of danger you are talking about or do you misunderstand
radioactive decay?

No. You seem determined to pretend that I have some absurd view.

One of the most dangerous substances are the dioxins produced by burning
wood in the presence of plastics but I don't see you campaigning to get rid
of wood or plastic.

Quite so. What exactly do you think you *have* seen me campaigning to
get rid of?

-- Richard
--
Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

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Bill Wright wrote:

Next time anyone complains about my habit of throwing apple cores out of the
van window into the ditch I will be able to claim green immunity from the
litter laws.

Has anyone actually complained about that?

-- Richard
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Please remember to mention me / in tapes you leave behind.

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On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 14:40:29 +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:

so sooner or later every atom will have
decayed.

Unless you have a cat.

BW
We used to have a cat. One day I put it in a box with some poison. This
worked, and when I opened the box the cat was dead. There was no two ways
about it.


Yes, but you missed out the random event.

Well yes. I wanted to kill the cat. Didn't want a slip up.

Bill

On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:12:21 +0000, Richard Tobin asked:

Has anyone actually complained about that?

Tis a wonder that no one has actually complained about the driver of
the van eating an apple whilst driving the van on a public highway.

http://www.oxfordmail.co.UK/news/4207419.Bus_driver_caught_eating_apple_at_wheel_at _site_of_fatal_accident/

http://www.dailymail.co.UK/news/article-335291/Pipped-Woman-driver-fined-eating-apple.html

And from the Daily Record of 1999

QUOTE

DRIVER FINED pounds 250 FOR EATING APPLE;
Police caught him tucking in at 70mph.

June 30, 1999

A DRIVER was fined pounds 250 yesterday for eating an apple behind the
wheel of his car.

David Rennie also had five penalty points put on his licence after
admitting careless driving.

But he claimed police who spotted him eating the fruit at more than
70mph told him he would hear no more about it.

UNQUOTE

Andy Champ wrote:
Java Jive wrote:

I don't have costs or deaths for the UK alone, but there is a world
list of incidents with some immediate mortality figures he

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...lear_accidents


Perhaps I miscounted, but apart from the Lenin and Chernobyl incidents -
both in the former Soviet Union, not a regime noted for great care of
its people - the world death toll appears to be a totally unsupportable
figure, one we couldn't possibly risk again, far worse than any... what?
Oh. Four actually. And even those two incidents don't seem to take it
over the number killed in the Aberfan disaster.

Andy

Or even the number killed in presumably building windmills..

Java Jive wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 21:41:08 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote:
Perhaps I miscounted, but apart from the Lenin and Chernobyl incidents -
both in the former Soviet Union, not a regime noted for great care of
its people

Almost as bad as HM Government ...

http://www.bntva.com/health/MCS/one.htm#start

(There was also a sizeable group of British armed forces personnel who
were deliberately and without their knowledge, IIRC they were told it
was 'flu research, exposed to radiation, but despite hearing about
this at least twice in the last decade or so, I've not been able to
find a link, nor one to similar US trials, about which I have a
tenuous recollection that they were performed on disadvantaged
civilian blacks)

the world death toll appears to be a totally unsupportable
figure, one we couldn't possibly risk again, far worse than any... what?
Oh. Four actually. And even those two incidents don't seem to take
it over the number killed in the Aberfan disaster.

Only one problem with that comparison ... Noone's disputing the
deaths from coal and oil ... Two actually, not all coal and oil is
used to generate electricity.


Gosh. Really?
Who would have thought it.

J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:43:33 +0100, [email protected] wrote:

Uranium for instance can be safely kept in a cardboard box under the bed.

And breathing in the radon gas is not a hazard?


What radon gas?

You also forget that aside from the radioactive hazards of uranium,
it is a toxic metal.


Indeed. its as nasty as lead or mercury really.