Freeview STBs and TiVo

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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...but, have you ever owned a TiVo?

No. Because I don't think it gives anything over what I have.

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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I aknowledge that the TiVo is getting left behind but as long as the
majority of terrestial broadcasting is in standard definition I'll be
keeping mine. It's a great shame that they haven't licenced the
software to be run on PVRs in countries where TiVos aren't being sold.

Tim




i just don't think their business plan works - other than the seriously
obsessed ( nerds like myself ), who is willing to pay a tenner a month
for tv listings? - yes there's a lifetime option but again, who would
pay for that even?

I have two TiVo's hence two lifetime plans, but purchased sometime ago.
We are pretty much a standard-def household hooked on watching programme
content rather than purity of delivery. TiVo has never really let us
down on the latter, and my machines have been spinning upgraded disks
for over six years now. I'm also a software geek and there are a few
toys installed including networking options.

The majority of TiVo's business plan was stuffed when they got into
contract with Sky to handle the subscription payments and phone support
- and Dixons to handle marketing on behalf of Thomson.

Thomson had problems selling the expensive machines in Dixons as PVRs
were an unknown thing back then. But murdoch took one look at the PVR /
EPG interface concept and (badly) ripped it off to create Sky+. Even key
elements of TiVo's US advertising were lifted wholesale to create Sky+
advertising. Phone the remains of their TiVo support with a problem and
it's likely ye'll be encoraged to swap 'up' to Sky+.

Over me dead proverbials ...

--
Adrian C

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , fred writes
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
writes
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:55:38 +0100, fred wrote:

If it is U/S, would it be a likely cause of the symptoms? It has 2200
microF, 10V, HD(M), 105C and HD243 printed on it.

Try these:
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...10v/dp/9691952

That's only 1000 instead of 2200.

Ooops, sorry bout that, the one below is the right one and still pretty
cheap.

Any stock problems and these will also work and have a slightly better
spec (at a slightly higher cost):
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...10v/dp/9691979

Seems to be the proper replacement, assuming it's physically small enough
to fit.
Yes, agreed

Strangely:
Farnell do these for 59p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 5, free postage,
total £3.44
CPC do these for 55p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 1, postage £5.95,
total £7.48
seeing as Farnell and CPC are supposedly the same company...
Different cost models, free post offset by higher margins on the goods,
quite handy for little orders like this one.

But then, I could have sent him one for nothing ...

--
geoff

Can I have one for free?

Adam

In article ,
Adrian C wrote:

Phone the remains of their TiVo support with a problem and
it's likely ye'll be encoraged to swap 'up' to Sky+.

Really? I've never had that when I've rung them. Far from it!

Over me dead proverbials ...

Aye. I want HD. I don't like paying sky. I hate the idea of paying them
even more just to get the HD part of the box enabled!

Darren

In article , geoff
writes
In message , fred writes
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
writes

http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...10v/dp/9691979
Seems to be the proper replacement, assuming it's physically small enough
to fit.
Yes, agreed

Strangely:
Farnell do these for 59p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 5, free postage,
total £3.44
CPC do these for 55p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 1, postage £5.95,
total £7.48
seeing as Farnell and CPC are supposedly the same company...
Different cost models, free post offset by higher margins on the goods,
quite handy for little orders like this one.

But then, I could have sent him one for nothing ...

Are we doing secret santa this year?

I've been good :-)
--
fred
BBC3, ITV2/3/4, channels going to the DOGs

In message ,
ARWadsworth writes

"geoff" wrote in message
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In message , fred writes
In article , Paul Ratcliffe
writes
On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 22:55:38 +0100, fred wrote:

If it is U/S, would it be a likely cause of the symptoms? It has 2200
microF, 10V, HD(M), 105C and HD243 printed on it.

Try these:
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...10v/dp/9691952

That's only 1000 instead of 2200.

Ooops, sorry bout that, the one below is the right one and still
pretty cheap.

Any stock problems and these will also work and have a slightly better
spec (at a slightly higher cost):
http://uk.farnell.com/panasonic/eeuf...10v/dp/9691979

Seems to be the proper replacement, assuming it's physically small enough
to fit.
Yes, agreed

Strangely:
Farnell do these for 59p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 5, free postage,
total £3.44
CPC do these for 55p each exc. VAT, min. qty. 1, postage £5.95,
total £7.48
seeing as Farnell and CPC are supposedly the same company...
Different cost models, free post offset by higher margins on the
goods, quite handy for little orders like this one.

But then, I could have sent him one for nothing ...

-- geoff

Can I have one for free?

I'll stick one on the back of a postage stamp ...

--
geoff

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"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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8

...but, have you ever owned a TiVo?

No.

Thought not.

Tim

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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[email protected] wrote:
"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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8

...but, have you ever owned a TiVo?

No.

Thought not.

You don't have to own a TiVo to decide you don't want one.
Have you owned a media centre PC and a SKY+HD and every other PVR?
Thought not.

Tim

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"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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[email protected] wrote:
"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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8

...but, have you ever owned a TiVo?

No.

Thought not.

You don't have to own a TiVo to decide you don't want one.
Have you owned a media centre PC and a SKY+HD and every other PVR?

I have owned several other PVRs and tried many more at friends' houses.
Whilst the TiVo doesn't match them all for features (heck, it's ten years
old now), in terms of usability I've yet to see anything better.

I think Darren summarised one of the TiVo's other great features in his
message.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....671aad95?hl=en

Tim

"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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[email protected] wrote:
"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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[email protected] wrote:
"Tim Downie" wrote in message
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8

...but, have you ever owned a TiVo?

No.

Thought not.

You don't have to own a TiVo to decide you don't want one.
Have you owned a media centre PC and a SKY+HD and every other PVR?

I have owned several other PVRs and tried many more at friends' houses.
Whilst the TiVo doesn't match them all for features (heck, it's ten years
old now), in terms of usability I've yet to see anything better.

So have I and I still don't see what a TiVo gives over some others.

IMO its not easier to use than sky+ either.
In fact its damn hard to have a look on another channel while you are
recording one.


I think Darren summarised one of the TiVo's other great features in his
message.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk....671aad95?hl=en

media centre pcs will search for and record stuff like that.
Even sky+ will record following seasons if the provider bothers to put the
data in the stream.

Anyway the new download services will end the need for pvrs if they actually
get the quality better.