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Old September 11th 09, 06:33 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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" wrote in message
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On Sep 10, 9:35 pm, chicagofan wrote:
Jim wrote:
"Wes wrote


To each his own. But the 1080P set will have almost 3 times the
picture
clarity.


And gray blacks and motion blur.


Haven't noticed that in the last year of ownership of a 1080P
Samsung
LCD.
bj


Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.

50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.


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Old September 11th 09, 08:34 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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In article "Stewart" writes:

" wrote in message
...
On Sep 10, 9:35 pm, chicagofan wrote:
Jim wrote:
"Wes wrote


To each his own. But the 1080P set will have almost 3 times the
picture
clarity.


And gray blacks and motion blur.


Haven't noticed that in the last year of ownership of a 1080P
Samsung
LCD.
bj


Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.

50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.


You have it backwards.

Alan
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Old September 11th 09, 09:43 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Sep 10, 7:18*pm, " wrote:
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Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.


Really? I've worked in facilities with PAL and NTSC. PAL flickers
considerably more than NTSC (50 vs 60Hz field rates) at least with a
video camera as the source. BUT the 3:2 judder might be what bothers
them. In Europe they simply run 24FPS film at 25FPS. Early on they
didn't have pitch correction to fix the 4% fast (2/3 of a
semitone !! ) pitch. I wonder what Barry White sounds like at 4% fast
- likely not good.


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Old September 11th 09, 09:45 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Sep 10, 6:47*am, Wes Newell wrote:
On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 05:40:35 -0700, wrote:
On Sep 9, 8:52*pm, "

wrote:
On sale in my locale this week for 600 bucks, has me drooling.


http://www.compusa.com/applications/...m-details.asp?


EdpNo=4445439&Sku=P333-4282

Maybe I'm missing something but this doesn't impress me one bit.

* * * * * Display Area: * * * * 42"
* * * * * Display Type: * * * * Plasma
* * * * * Aspect Ratio: * * * * 16:9
* * * * * Resolution: * 1024 x 768
* * * * * Signal Compatibility: * * * * 720p
* * * * * Power Consumption: * *286 W

Not when one can get a true 1080P LCD for the same price that uses

less
energy.


Yeah but one serious issue is colorimetry change vs viewing angle.
Some LCDs are truly aweful on this score while plasmas are no problem
at all. It depends on what annoys you most.


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Old September 11th 09, 01:58 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Alan" wrote in message
...
| In article "Stewart"
writes:
|
| " wrote in message
| ...
| On Sep 10, 9:35 pm, chicagofan wrote:
| Jim wrote:
| "Wes wrote
|
| To each his own. But the 1080P set will have almost 3 times the
| picture
| clarity.
|
| And gray blacks and motion blur.
|
| Haven't noticed that in the last year of ownership of a 1080P
| Samsung
| LCD.
| bj
|
| Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
| American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.
|
| 50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.
|
| You have it backwards.
|
| Alan


No, not exactly.
It is 50hz (Euro) vs. 60hz (USA)
What is backwards is that flicker would be more apparent in a 50hz
situation.
That is why I set my computer refresh rate at 85hz.
That is why 120hz HDTVs have a lot going for them

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Old September 11th 09, 04:05 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:33:54 -0700, "Stewart"
wrote:

Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.

50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.


Odd, I would guess that the higher the frequency the less noticeable
the flicker would be.

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than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

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Old September 12th 09, 05:11 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Alan" wrote in message
...
In article "Stewart"
writes:

" wrote in message
...
On Sep 10, 9:35 pm, chicagofan wrote:
Jim wrote:
"Wes wrote

To each his own. But the 1080P set will have almost 3 times the
picture
clarity.

And gray blacks and motion blur.

Haven't noticed that in the last year of ownership of a 1080P
Samsung
LCD.
bj


Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.

50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.


You have it backwards.

Alan


Europe, 50hz, US 60hz...either way it's still 50 vs. 60 (or 60 vs. 50,
which ever you prefer).


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Old September 12th 09, 05:16 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Howard Brazee" wrote in message
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On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:33:54 -0700, "Stewart"

wrote:

Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.

50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.


Odd, I would guess that the higher the frequency the less noticeable
the flicker would be.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison


Hmm..I guess as Alan pointed out, I didn't put it clearly....(makes
less sense when I go back and reread it). That is what I meant, the
50hz interlaced would be more noticeable than 60hz interlaced. Of
course for many, working under fluorescent lighting with CRT's at 60hz
refresh was quite annoying.


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Old September 12th 09, 06:23 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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"Stewart" wrote in message
...
|
| "Howard Brazee" wrote in message
| ...
| On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 21:33:54 -0700, "Stewart"
|
| wrote:
|
| Well, not trying to argue, but the eyes adjust. Like flicker on
| American CRTs that we don't notice but drives Euros crazy.
|
| 50 Hz vs. 60 Hz.
|
| Odd, I would guess that the higher the frequency the less noticeable
| the flicker would be.
|
| --
| "In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
| than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
| to the legislature, and not to the executive department."
|
| - James Madison
|
| Hmm..I guess as Alan pointed out, I didn't put it clearly....(makes
| less sense when I go back and reread it). That is what I meant, the
| 50hz interlaced would be more noticeable than 60hz interlaced. Of
| course for many, working under fluorescent lighting with CRT's at 60hz
| refresh was quite annoying.
|
|

AMEN!

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Richard Harison


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Old September 12th 09, 06:57 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Wes Newell[_2_]
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On Sat, 12 Sep 2009 08:16:16 -0700, Stewart wrote:

Of
course for many, working under fluorescent lighting with CRT's at 60hz
refresh was quite annoying.


I wouldn't think it would be any more annoying as working under
fluorescent lighting with CRT's at 50Hz in countries where that's the AC
freq. It may even be worse at 50Hz.

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