HD TV advice ( beginner)

In article en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart wrote:
Most the HD displays at trade shows in the 1980s used CRTs, some of them
about 40" as I recall. That seemed to me then, and still does, to be
about the smallest screen size where the extra detail would be worth
the bother. The boxes containing these CRTs were understandably huge,
even the back-projected ones, which probably explains why no serious
attempt was made to flog the system to the public until the
availability of flat screens.

Even more likely was the enormous cost of the hardware needed to make HD
progs - unless film. Digital VTRs were in their infancy. It's only really
become practical with cheap processing power.

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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0100, "endymion"
wrote:

My TV has broken and I want to get a new one. I have decided to move my
old 26" TV into the bedroom and get a new main TV for the sitting room.

I have seen two TV's which I am keen on ( Panasonic 37" screen) , The
only difference between them other than price is the HD.

One is HD ready, the other HD fully ready.
Can someone please explain this in very simple terms ( for a girl) so
that
I know which I should get . What is HD and do I need a set for this and
why
anyway? Are they going to change digital the HD or something?


Panasonic seem to use "Full HD" to mean that the screen has 1080 lines.
This is the standard number of lines in an HD picture. And "HD Ready"
means that the TV can display HD pictures but that it converts the
resolution from 1080 lines to 768 lines. This just means that an HD
picture is not as good as it would be on a Full HD set but is better
than a picture from an SD (standard definition) source.

Can you give some more information about the two TVs you are interested
in, model name or number, whatever?

Its a Pansonic TXL 37S10B

37" Full HD LCD Television with 50,000:1 Contrast and Intelligent Scene
Controller. Feature V-Audio Surround.
a.. Wide Viewing Angle with IPS Alpha Panel
a.. 50,000:1 Contrast with Intelligent Scene Controller
a.. Smart Networking with VIERA Link
a.. VIERA Image Viewer (AVCHD/JPEG)
a.. V-Audio Surround
and it has a five year parts service and labour warrently on it for free or
as part of the deal if you prefer.

Since I have had a TV go wrong a little over a year after I bought it I am
keen to get something decent this time.




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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:41:51 +0100, "endymion"
wrote:


"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0100, "endymion"
wrote:

My TV has broken and I want to get a new one. I have decided to move my
old 26" TV into the bedroom and get a new main TV for the sitting room.

I have seen two TV's which I am keen on ( Panasonic 37" screen) , The
only difference between them other than price is the HD.

One is HD ready, the other HD fully ready.
Can someone please explain this in very simple terms ( for a girl) so
that
I know which I should get . What is HD and do I need a set for this and
why
anyway? Are they going to change digital the HD or something?


Panasonic seem to use "Full HD" to mean that the screen has 1080 lines.
This is the standard number of lines in an HD picture. And "HD Ready"
means that the TV can display HD pictures but that it converts the
resolution from 1080 lines to 768 lines. This just means that an HD
picture is not as good as it would be on a Full HD set but is better
than a picture from an SD (standard definition) source.

Can you give some more information about the two TVs you are interested
in, model name or number, whatever?

Its a Pansonic TXL 37S10B

37" Full HD LCD Television with 50,000:1 Contrast and Intelligent Scene
Controller. Feature V-Audio Surround.
a.. Wide Viewing Angle with IPS Alpha Panel
a.. 50,000:1 Contrast with Intelligent Scene Controller
a.. Smart Networking with VIERA Link
a.. VIERA Image Viewer (AVCHD/JPEG)
a.. V-Audio Surround
and it has a five year parts service and labour warrently on it for free or
as part of the deal if you prefer.

Since I have had a TV go wrong a little over a year after I bought it I am
keen to get something decent this time.

I have no experience of this TV so I can't say anything for or against
its performance and quality. Perhaps someone else knows it.

The specification on the Panasonic UK website says that it has 1,920 x
1,080 resolution. It will show HD TV pictures in full detail.
http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_G...123/index.html
or http://tinyurl.com/nfdh7w

There is a brief review at:
http://whathifi.com/Review/Panasonic-TX-L37S10/

They seem to like it.

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from "Roger R" contains these words:

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I thought idea with product promotion is to come up with significant
sounding but meaningless statistics such as: 40% less.
- Less than something that is 40% more of course ;-)

ITYM - Less than something that is 66.67% more of course ;-)

HTH

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endymion wrote:
"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0100, "endymion"
wrote:

My TV has broken and I want to get a new one. I have decided to
move my old 26" TV into the bedroom and get a new main TV for the
sitting room. I have seen two TV's which I am keen on ( Panasonic 37"
screen) , The only difference between them other than price is the HD.

One is HD ready, the other HD fully ready.
Can someone please explain this in very simple terms ( for a girl)
so that
I know which I should get . What is HD and do I need a set for
this and why
anyway? Are they going to change digital the HD or something?


Panasonic seem to use "Full HD" to mean that the screen has 1080
lines. This is the standard number of lines in an HD picture. And
"HD Ready" means that the TV can display HD pictures but that it
converts the resolution from 1080 lines to 768 lines. This just
means that an HD picture is not as good as it would be on a Full HD
set but is better than a picture from an SD (standard definition)
source. Can you give some more information about the two TVs you are
interested in, model name or number, whatever?

Its a Pansonic TXL 37S10B

37" Full HD LCD Television with 50,000:1 Contrast and Intelligent
Scene Controller. Feature V-Audio Surround.
a.. Wide Viewing Angle with IPS Alpha Panel
a.. 50,000:1 Contrast with Intelligent Scene Controller
a.. Smart Networking with VIERA Link
a.. VIERA Image Viewer (AVCHD/JPEG)
a.. V-Audio Surround
and it has a five year parts service and labour warrently on it for
free or as part of the deal if you prefer.

Since I have had a TV go wrong a little over a year after I bought it
I am keen to get something decent this time.

If it went wrong that soon you are within your rights to claim for a
replacemet. The Citzens Advice Bureau could probably help you deal with the
supplier.
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In article , Java Jive
wrote:
But, as has already been pointed out up thread, there ain't no such
thing as a similar-sized, similar-spec CRT TV?

True, but I think its power consumption would compare favourably even
with that of a smaller CRT display, and there are of course LCD
displays with conventional fluorescent backlights.

Rod.
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 17:34:30 +0100, Peter Duncanson
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:45:07 +0100, "endymion"
wrote:

My TV has broken and I want to get a new one. I have decided to move my
old 26" TV into the bedroom and get a new main TV for the sitting room.

I have seen two TV's which I am keen on ( Panasonic 37" screen) , The
only difference between them other than price is the HD.

One is HD ready, the other HD fully ready.
Can someone please explain this in very simple terms ( for a girl) so that
I know which I should get . What is HD and do I need a set for this and why
anyway? Are they going to change digital the HD or something?


Panasonic seem to use "Full HD" to mean that the screen has 1080 lines.
This is the standard number of lines in an HD picture. And "HD Ready"
means that the TV can display HD pictures but that it converts the
resolution from 1080 lines to 768 lines. This just means that an HD
picture is not as good as it would be on a Full HD set but is better
than a picture from an SD (standard definition) source.

Argos also seem to have their very own definition. According to page
1339 of their latest catalogue, "1080p HD uses twice as many pixels as
a HD Ready TV", and they have a diagram showing "HD Ready" as
1366x768, and "1080p HD Ready" as 1920x1080...

Charlie
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:53:47 +0100, "Roger R"
wrote:

I thought idea with product promotion is to come up with significant
sounding but meaningless statistics such as: 40% less.
- Less than something that is 40% more of course ;-)

Less than something that is 66.67% more, I think you'll find.

Charlie
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Adrian wrote:
They don't say whose lifetime, it could be the kid's hamster.

I think it's the lifetime of the TV. So it's guaranteed until it goes
wrong.

Andy

On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 10:16:28 +0100, Roderick Stewart
wrote:

In article , Dr Zoidberg wrote:
As there are no full HD cathode ray tube model TV's on the market (AFAIK)
is
that a realistic comparison?


Samsung did make a HD CRT for a while but discontinued it ages ago.

Most the HD displays at trade shows in the 1980s used CRTs, some of them about
40" as I recall. That seemed to me then, and still does, to be about the
smallest screen size where the extra detail would be worth the bother.

Try connecting an old VGA ony (480 lines) monitor to a PC and see what
a difference losing 50% of the lines in HD makes.

last time i tried this windows didnt like it even during the setup
process.....

Granted a computer screen is working with a different type of source
material.

And flat screens used in video production for editing now are often
2000 lines / 36" or so...

The
boxes containing these CRTs were understandably huge, even the back-projected
ones, which probably explains why no serious attempt was made to flog the
system to the public until the availability of flat screens.

Rod.
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