Old black and white TV and digibox connections

I am sorry , its me again. Totally unrelated to my new TV question and HD
ready. I read in a magazine that any TV , even a fifty year old b/w one can
be connected to a cheap digibox and made to receive digital even if it
doesnt have a scart socket.

How do you do this? I have an old Sony b/w portable TV from circa 1974 . It
still works ( or would if we had an analogue signal) . I also have a digibox
here ( Tesco's own about two years old) . How do I connect it up? I cant
see anywhere to put any leads in , even if I had leads. There is no scart
connector on the TV . In fact all there is as far as I can see is an Aerial
socket to put an external aerial on the TV.

Can someone tell me if I can convert it or if the article was wrong?
Thanks.

endymion wrote:
I am sorry , its me again. Totally unrelated to my new TV question and
HD ready. I read in a magazine that any TV , even a fifty year old b/w
one can be connected to a cheap digibox and made to receive digital
even if it doesnt have a scart socket.

How do you do this? I have an old Sony b/w portable TV from circa 1974
. It still works ( or would if we had an analogue signal) . I also have
a digibox here ( Tesco's own about two years old) . How do I connect
it up? I cant see anywhere to put any leads in , even if I had leads.
There is no scart connector on the TV . In fact all there is as far as I
can see is an Aerial socket to put an external aerial on the TV.

Can someone tell me if I can convert it or if the article was wrong?
Thanks.


In this case, it can only be made to work if you find a digibox that has
a built-in RF output ( modulator ).

This will put the digital channels on an RF channel, which the ageing
hulk can tune into.

Only a small number do, others can advise which models.

Though why you might want to is another matter.

( notwithstanding vintage enthusiasts, like we saw a while back with
some chap using a digibox hooked up to a standards converter to view it
on an old 405 line box... Perhaps we need a standards-convertor to view
1080p content on a Baird system spinning wheel thingy... )



--
Ron

"Ron Lowe" wrote in message
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In this case, it can only be made to work if you find a digibox that has a
built-in RF output ( modulator ).

This will put the digital channels on an RF channel, which the ageing hulk
can tune into.

Only a small number do, others can advise which models.

Though why you might want to is another matter.

( notwithstanding vintage enthusiasts, like we saw a while back with some
chap using a digibox hooked up to a standards converter to view it on an
old 405 line box... Perhaps we need a standards-convertor to view 1080p
content on a Baird system spinning wheel thingy... )

Well the reason I asked is because the magazine article was more or less
telling you ( me) that to buy a new TV was wasteful and not very eco
friendly and that one should always try and convert the old set rather than
throw it away if it still worked.

I know the old b/w still works because I had it on just a few days ago
before they switched the signals off. I thought it might be worth putting a
digibox on it since the article said you should.

But what they didnt say , if I read you correctly, is that I need a special
digi box?

If I got such a box, how would that connect to the TV? Through the aerial
connection only?
There is absolutely no other place to plug anything into. It would be some
sort of wire with a aerial type connector on it?

"endymion" wrote in message
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"Ron Lowe" wrote in message
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In this case, it can only be made to work if you find a digibox that has
a built-in RF output ( modulator ).

This will put the digital channels on an RF channel, which the ageing
hulk can tune into.

On the digibox I have an " ant in" and a " TV out" pair of sockets aside
of the scart.
Are those any use? Whats an RF channel? I still only have an aerial
socket on the TV - so only one way in to the TV.
How could it be wired up if I got the right digibox?

On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:29:03 +0100, Ron Lowe wrote:

endymion wrote:
I am sorry , its me again. Totally unrelated to my new TV question and
HD ready. I read in a magazine that any TV , even a fifty year old b/w
one can be connected to a cheap digibox and made to receive digital
even if it doesnt have a scart socket.

How do you do this? I have an old Sony b/w portable TV from circa 1974
. It still works ( or would if we had an analogue signal) . I also have
a digibox here ( Tesco's own about two years old) . How do I connect
it up? I cant see anywhere to put any leads in , even if I had leads.
There is no scart connector on the TV . In fact all there is as far as I
can see is an Aerial socket to put an external aerial on the TV.

Can someone tell me if I can convert it or if the article was wrong?
Thanks.


In this case, it can only be made to work if you find a digibox that has
a built-in RF output ( modulator ).

Or by using an additional box between the digibox to convert from SCART
to RF: an RF Modulator. The snag with this is that the extra box costs
money.

There is one he
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?... SO&U=Strat15

Here's a cheaper one:
http://www.telly-leads.co.uk/rf-modulator.htm

I used an RF modulator for a time to connect a Freeview box, DVD player
and VCR to a small portable TV.

This will put the digital channels on an RF channel, which the ageing
hulk can tune into.

Only a small number do, others can advise which models.

Though why you might want to is another matter.

( notwithstanding vintage enthusiasts, like we saw a while back with
some chap using a digibox hooked up to a standards converter to view it
on an old 405 line box... Perhaps we need a standards-convertor to view
1080p content on a Baird system spinning wheel thingy... )

--
Peter Duncanson
(in uk.tech.digital-tv)

"Ron Lowe" wrote in message
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endymion wrote:
I am sorry , its me again. Totally unrelated to my new TV question and HD
ready. I read in a magazine that any TV , even a fifty year old b/w one
can be connected to a cheap digibox and made to receive digital even if
it doesnt have a scart socket.

How do you do this? I have an old Sony b/w portable TV from circa 1974 .
It still works ( or would if we had an analogue signal) . I also have a
digibox here ( Tesco's own about two years old) . How do I connect it
up? I cant see anywhere to put any leads in , even if I had leads. There
is no scart connector on the TV . In fact all there is as far as I can
see is an Aerial socket to put an external aerial on the TV.

Can someone tell me if I can convert it or if the article was wrong?
Thanks.


In this case, it can only be made to work if you find a digibox that has a
built-in RF output ( modulator ).

This will put the digital channels on an RF channel, which the ageing hulk
can tune into.

Only a small number do, others can advise which models.

Another way to do it...
What you need is one of these:
http://www.maplin.co.uk/module.aspx?moduleno=33050
or the same thing from from the B&Q:
http://tinyurl.com/koo9n7
An SLX brand modulator box, but at 29.99 from Maplin or 37.48 from the B&Q
you might think twice.
(B&Q have recently had them on reduced price summer clearance)

Using a scart lead, link the scart connector on the set top box to the one
on the unit, and use an aerial lead to connect the aerial socket on the back
to the aerial input on the set.
You then tune the TV into the signal coming out the box, and you'r there.
+ then you have to do a scan channels on the set top box to tune that in.

Aerial and scart leads are in B&Q or Homebase, but all adds to the cost.

Roger R

"Owain" wrote in message
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You need one of a few digiboxes that has an RF output (not just an RF
through connection,)

TVonics MFR-200 Black Digital Set Top Box. 532/1375 is one that Argos
do. £38.99 so not terribly expensive. The old On-Digital boxes also
had RF output if you can pick one of them up s/hand.

I see what you mean, but it makes a nonsense of the article which said it
could be done with a digibox and that it would cost about £15 .

I have looked on the internet as well at those links people have kindly
given here, and it seems the equipment needed is at least twice that cost.
I also found the official information site and put in details. It too came
up with a £38 box to convert an old TV via the "RF" modulator.
I am not sure that is worth it. is it?

"endymion" wrote in message
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I am not sure that is worth it. is it?

Only you can answer that, but don't forget there will be untidy boxes and
cables to put up with too.

Roger R

On Aug 25, 9:17*pm, "endymion"
wrote:
I am sorry , its me again. Totally unrelated to my new TV question and HD
ready. I read in a magazine that any TV , even a fifty year old b/w one can
be connected to a cheap *digibox and made to receive digital even if it
doesnt have a scart socket.

How do you do this? *I have an old Sony b/w portable TV from circa 1974 . It
still works ( or would if we had an analogue signal) . I also have a digibox
here ( Tesco's own about two years old) . * How do I connect it up? I cant
see anywhere to put any leads in *, even if I had leads. There is no scart
connector on the TV . In fact all there is as far as I can see is an Aerial
socket to put an external aerial on the TV.

Can someone tell me if I can convert it or if the article was wrong?
Thanks.

I realise it may not be a perfect solutions and somewhat messy under
the TV, but how about an old VCR? Scart from the freeview box into the
VCR and Coax out to the TV. That should work OK.

"endymion" wrote in message
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But what they didnt say , if I read you correctly, is that I need a
special digi box?

If I got such a box, how would that connect to the TV? Through the aerial
connection only?
There is absolutely no other place to plug anything into. It would be some
sort of wire with a aerial type connector on it?

You need one like this one at .... http://tinyurl.com/m4k7e8 (
http://www.amazon.co.uk/FV400-Digita...-receiever-Mod
ulator/dp/B002KHVB68/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=12
51239221&sr=1-1 )

Paul