Marantz Launches Blu-ray Players

Stewart wrote:

Your attempt at a parallel is obtuse,

Oh, oh. I should have smelled this coming.

A BD, BD-DVD, CD, HD-DVD and DVD are all round on a single plane,

There is no such thing as a BD-DVD.

though they are also flat, so if you were discussing them (as it
should be) instead of using straw man arguments to try and enhance
your position,

Straw man arguments? I can post dozens of URLs that define a DVD as a
second generation optical disc, and a BD as a third generation optical
disc. The "earth is flat/round" reference was only to highlight the
absurdity of your contention.

Speaking of obtuse...

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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Stewart wrote:

I added the dialog that was removed....

Your attempt at a parallel is obtuse, as the earth is neither round
nor flat, and I would never take the position that it is flat. It
is an oblate spheroid, flattened at the poles and bulging at the
equator.

Oh, oh. I should have smelled this coming.

A BD, BD-DVD, CD, HD-DVD and DVD are all round on a single plane,

There is no such thing as a BD-DVD.

though they are also flat, so if you were discussing them (as it
should be) instead of using straw man arguments to try and enhance
your position,

Straw man arguments?

Earth.

I can post dozens of URLs that define a DVD as a
second generation optical disc, and a BD as a third generation
optical
disc. The "earth is flat/round" reference was only to highlight the
absurdity of your contention.

Speaking of obtuse...

One can argue that the earth isn't round (your analogy, not mine),
even though the huge majority of people and information available says
that it is, and neither side would really be wrong. The same goes for
many things. This was just a lesson for you., as one can be anal
enough about anything to not see the forest through the trees.

I do find many of your postings offers a good mix of interesting
information about the industry and you seem to be quite knowledgeable
about many them and for that, I thank you (please keep doing so). What
I would like to offer you some advice; always keep an open mind, as
there are plenty of shades of grey in many cases that blur the
defining lines of right and wrong.

All I can say in closing is that I agree we disagree. It makes no
sense to keep this thread alive until it degenerates into the abyss of
Godwin's Law.

"Stewart" wrote in message
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| "Greg Melton" wrote in message
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| On Sat, 1 Aug 2009 12:51:12 -0700, "Stewart"
| wrote:
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| "UCLAN" wrote in message
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| L Alpert wrote:
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| It would seem both are Digital Video Discs that have differing
| formats. While a BD is also a DVD, a DVD is not a BD.
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| That sums it up quite nicely.
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| Hardly.
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| Both are optical discs offering digital audio and video.
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| http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Optical_disc
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http://www.mam-a.com/technology/tech...sc_formats.pdf
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| etc.
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| Yet both are Digital Video Discs, or DVD.
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| Wrong.
| DVD="Digital Versitial Disc"
| *******ized into "Digital Video Disc"
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| Either way, a bd is a dvd, but a dvd is not a bd.
|

How about....
(a redux of the old dogs & bulldogs chestnut)

all BDs are DVDs but not all DVDs are BDs

--
Regards,
Richard Harison

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:32:18 -0700, "L Alpert"
wrote:

It seems there was a discussion about this a while back. There were
those that believe that blu-ray are not DVD, while others believe that
DVD is a generic term that can be applied to many formats.

If I remember correctly, "others" overstated the number with that 2nd
belief.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Sun, 2 Aug 2009 12:22:42 -0700, "Stewart"
wrote:

Your attempt at a parallel is obtuse, as the earth is neither round
nor flat, and I would never take the position that it is flat. It is
an oblate spheroid, flattened at the poles and bulging at the
equator.

What would you call round? A billiard ball?

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

On Sun, 02 Aug 2009 21:46:37 -0700, Greg Melton
wrote:

DVD="Digital Versitial Disc"
*******ized into "Digital Video Disc"

But now, it's just DVD, not really standing for anything anymore -
it's the name of a particular format of optical disk.

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison

"Stewart" wrote

It is an oblate spheroid, flattened at the poles and bulging at the
equator.

Much like my boss's wife. Good to remember.

"Kalarama" wrote in message
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"Stewart" wrote

It is an oblate spheroid, flattened at the poles and bulging at the
equator.

Much like my boss's wife. Good to remember.


Not so nice,but funny!

"Glen Watson" skrev i meddelelsen
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Does anyone know if Blu-Ray will be the last generation of optical discs?
It seems lots of companies are interested in flash memory these days.
Disney is including free memory sticks with some of its movie titles.
Could this be the replacement for Blue-Ray?
,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I think that You are right!
I have put a Blu-ray film on a micro SD stick. Imagine "To blow your nose,
and out comes a micro SD card. You stick it in a SD-adapter and put the
adapter in a USB stick. You put the stick in a PS3 for an instance, and
there,- You play the Blu-ray film that You blew right out of Your nose! With
menus and all";-)

SD-HC cards are rated according to bitrate. CLASS 6 means 6 megaBytes per
sec. That is 6x8 megabits = 48 Megabits/sec. This is sufficient to a Blu-Ray
film. I have tried so I know.

My vision is little SD-HC(not micro) cards like stamps, with beautifull
little stamp-pictures of the film.

The film collection could have its place in a "Stamp collection album" when
the friend comes, You show him the album, he chooses the "stamp-film", You
place it in a USB-stick and into the compatible player(I know the PS3 can do
it) and it plays.

All the films in one stamp album standing on the bookshelf with its golden
backside Disney-like.-Is'nt that a beautifull vision?.-)

The "AVCHD" homemade Blu-ray standard is menu capable from a SD-HC card.
You can see the making here of a homemade HD-video sample That plays the
menus even from a hard drive folder(danish but with translations):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avLPdgEvybU


Greets
Jens

Stewart wrote:

One can argue that the earth isn't round (your analogy, not mine),
even though the huge majority of people and information available says
that it is, and neither side would really be wrong. The same goes for
many things. This was just a lesson for you., as one can be anal
enough about anything to not see the forest through the trees.

In other words, if the facts are not on your side...

I do find many of your postings offers a good mix of interesting
information about the industry and you seem to be quite knowledgeable
about many them and for that, I thank you (please keep doing so). What
I would like to offer you some advice; always keep an open mind, as
there are plenty of shades of grey in many cases that blur the
defining lines of right and wrong.

....BAFFLE 'EM WITH BULL****! Your motto?

All I can say in closing is that I agree we disagree. It makes no
sense to keep this thread alive until it degenerates into the abyss of
Godwin's Law.

Is that your way of saying that there is no such thing as a BD-DVD?

FINALLY!