Mr. Ed

"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...


Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?

C. 1966?

A riches-to-rags story (the opposite of "The Beverly Hillbillies").

Not very engaging, not least (as so often twith USA sitcoms) because it
was laden with America-specific cultural references which meant nothing
here.

Interesting point.
In the intervening 40 years we have become more leftpondian in outlook
due to the barrage of American sit-coms and the "celebraty culture"
I don't think the opposite is true.

Hah, this from a country that made tabloid harassment what it is today. Did
"Jordan", Jade Goody or the Victoria Beckham come from the US? Nope.
Britain has become the source on planet Earth for do-nothing "celebrities"
that do not much more than wear sunglasses for a living. It's a
more-than-cottage industry here in the UK, so don't go on blaming the US for
your own country's twisted versions of I Wish I Was A Royal (aka "Fifteen
Minutes Innit Enuf").

and what about Paris 'bury me in a Y shaped coffin' Hilton?

--
Paul (we break easy)
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"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
"Tim C" wrote in message
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Who here remembers this?


A horse is a horse
Of course of course
And no one can talk to a horse,
Of course
That is, of course
Unless the horse
Is the famous Mister Ed!

I remember it so well! And from the same era, Denis the Menace, staring
Jay North. And I Love Lucy!

The Dennis programme is often referred to as "Dennis The Menace", but
there seems to be little connection between them. The TV series was
marketed here in the UK as "Just Dennis".

I vaguely suspect that the USA strip cartoon may be called "Dennis The
Menace", but that the rights to that title here being held by the
publishers of The Beano meant that the TV programme had to be given
UK-specific credits and a new title.

"Dennis the Menace", the US comic strip, had its first print run 12 March
1951.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace_(U.S.)

"Dennis the Menace" aka "Dennis the Menace and Gnasher" outside the UK had
its debut in print on 15 March 1951.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace_(UK)

As an American cartoonist living in the UK I can easily say that the British
"Dennis the Menace" is a bit more of a malicious trickster than the American
one. "Dennis", as known in the UK, is more of a regular boy shown more
often in the aftermath of relative mischief (sitting in his chair in the
corner, usually) than 'during', as with the British "Dennis the Menace".

You Brits might think the US version to be an adaptation of the UK one, but
in actuality the release within three days of each other is considered one
of the weirder coincidences of the cartoon universe.
http://www.toonopedia.com/dennis.htm

--
Stephen Goodman
*
http://www.vimeo.com/spgoodman
http://www.last.fm/music/Stephen+Goodman

Personally I don't think they're alike and the original british one,
as you said, was a real menace. of course in those days it was
corporal punishment all round for him and his mates.

Yeah, little US dennis is a little boy who just tries to do something
, messes it up and upsets a few people.
--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
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Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:
petetop wrote:
"Tim C" wrote:

Who here remembers this?

[ ... ]

Oh, a horse is a horse
Of course, of course
And this one'll talk 'til his voice is hoarse
You never heard of a talking horse?
Well, listen to this:
". . . I am Mister Ed

Yeah I remember the series, and My mother the talking car, and a real
old one Four Feather Falls, anyone remeber that one?

Both of them.
"My Mother The Car" was fairly obscure, though. I'd never heard of "Miss
Ann Sothern" (the voice of the mother/car) before seeing it.

Ann Southern had her own show in the late 50s-early 60s, "The Ann Southern
Show" (duh!), probably to compete with "The Gail Storm Show", as both of
them were cast as social directors of cruise ships. Gail Storm died just a
few months ago, God bless her, a real cutie, who was also the star of "My
Little Margie" before any of that came along.

Ah... the wonders of inter-continental cross-posting!

I was writing from a UK perspective, which I think explains the blank for
"Miss Ann Sothern" (I always remembered that idiosyncratic spelling of her
surname).

I've heard of her since, over the years, but I don't think she was ever in
danger of becoming a household name on this side of the Atlantic.

Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx wrote:

"JNugent" wrote:
Bill Wright wrote:

... And from the same era, Denis the Menace, staring Jay North...

The Dennis programme is often referred to as "Dennis The Menace", but
there seems to be little connection between them. The TV series was
marketed here in the UK as "Just Dennis".
I vaguely suspect that the USA strip cartoon may be called "Dennis The
Menace", but that the rights to that title here being held by the
publishers of The Beano meant that the TV programme had to be given
UK-specific credits and a new title.

"Dennis the Menace", the US comic strip, had its first print run 12 March
1951.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace_(U.S.)

"Dennis the Menace" aka "Dennis the Menace and Gnasher" outside the UK had
its debut in print on 15 March 1951.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_the_Menace_(UK)

As an American cartoonist living in the UK I can easily say that the British
"Dennis the Menace" is a bit more of a malicious trickster than the American
one. "Dennis", as known in the UK, is more of a regular boy shown more
often in the aftermath of relative mischief (sitting in his chair in the
corner, usually) than 'during', as with the British "Dennis the Menace".

You Brits might think the US version to be an adaptation of the UK one, but
in actuality the release within three days of each other is considered one
of the weirder coincidences of the cartoon universe.
http://www.toonopedia.com/dennis.htm

Fascinating stuff, and a near-50-yr-old mystery solved!

Many thanks.

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...


Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?

C. 1966?

A riches-to-rags story (the opposite of "The Beverly Hillbillies").

Not very engaging, not least (as so often twith USA sitcoms) because
it
was laden with America-specific cultural references which meant
nothing
here.

Interesting point.
In the intervening 40 years we have become more leftpondian in outlook
due to the barrage of American sit-coms and the "celebraty culture"
I don't think the opposite is true.

Hah, this from a country that made tabloid harassment what it is today.
Did
"Jordan", Jade Goody or the Victoria Beckham come from the US? Nope.
Britain has become the source on planet Earth for do-nothing
"celebrities"
that do not much more than wear sunglasses for a living. It's a
more-than-cottage industry here in the UK, so don't go on blaming the US
for
your own country's twisted versions of I Wish I Was A Royal (aka "Fifteen
Minutes Innit Enuf").

and what about Paris 'bury me in a Y shaped coffin' Hilton?

I didn't say there weren't useless people in the US of course, just that the
model for such was perfected in the encapsulated world of British tabloid
'journalism'.

As an heiress to the Hilton fortune she doesn't quite fall into the same
arena, as she's bought all of her own PR etc. The vapid business model
might be the same, so one would have to consider her to be more than just a
prototype of the useless 'celebrity' type. Hardly the scale of nothingness
'achieved' by people in the UK promoted as 'celebrities' who in most cases
are never heard of outside of the UK, or in a zone twenty feet around them
while outside the UK. I'd call them more 'local non-talent' than
'celebrity' but their visibility only occurs in the relatively free
information zone of the Internet, and Internet-connected 'news' reporting.

That being said, the formerly readable Rolling Stone once had, in the
seventies, a radio advert with someone saying "Why should I care what Carly
Simon eats for breakfast?"; how they become what they formerly beheld. And
I've been outside my own country since 2000, so go figure.

In article ,
says...

Paul Heslop wrote:

I just tried finding the post with the swearing in it but I can't see
it except Bill's short one.

As most people on here will be wondering what on earth is going on,
perhaps I should explain.

As you will know, someone hiding behind the pseudonym of Froot Bat
blundered onto this forum in the wake of 'B Hughes', who had criticised
Brian for top posting after 'Tim C' had broadcast this thread across 5
forums.

It is not the last time that someone has reacted to Brian like this
without reading his sig and I doubt it will be the last.

However, after the matter had been explained, 'Froot Bat' decided to
carry on with his/her own little vendetta and I got rather mad!

As 'Froot Bat' seemed impervious to English, I decided a blast of Anglo-
Saxon might get the message across ...

.... however, I had a problem with my post because my ISP doesn't seem to
favour the 'broadcast to all' approach and limits my posts to only four
groups!

As the intended redipient, 'Froot Bat', is obviously not a member of
this group, I deleted it and hit 'send'.

If anybody wants to cross post this to the other four groups, go ahead.

I've said all I wanted to and now I quite honestly don't care a damn ...

.... (Oops, swearing again!) ...

--

Terry

"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
...
"Rev Norle Enturbulata, DTS, COD, SPx" wrote:

"Graham." wrote in message
...


Anyone remember Phyllis Diller in The Pruitts of Southampton?

C. 1966?

A riches-to-rags story (the opposite of "The Beverly Hillbillies").

Not very engaging, not least (as so often twith USA sitcoms) because
it
was laden with America-specific cultural references which meant
nothing
here.

Interesting point.
In the intervening 40 years we have become more leftpondian in outlook
due to the barrage of American sit-coms and the "celebraty culture"
I don't think the opposite is true.

Hah, this from a country that made tabloid harassment what it is today.
Did
"Jordan", Jade Goody or the Victoria Beckham come from the US? Nope.
Britain has become the source on planet Earth for do-nothing
"celebrities"
that do not much more than wear sunglasses for a living. It's a
more-than-cottage industry here in the UK, so don't go on blaming the US
for
your own country's twisted versions of I Wish I Was A Royal (aka "Fifteen
Minutes Innit Enuf").

and what about Paris 'bury me in a Y shaped coffin' Hilton?

I didn't say there weren't useless people in the US of course, just that the
model for such was perfected in the encapsulated world of British tabloid
'journalism'.

As an heiress to the Hilton fortune she doesn't quite fall into the same
arena, as she's bought all of her own PR etc. The vapid business model
might be the same, so one would have to consider her to be more than just a
prototype of the useless 'celebrity' type. Hardly the scale of nothingness
'achieved' by people in the UK promoted as 'celebrities' who in most cases
are never heard of outside of the UK, or in a zone twenty feet around them
while outside the UK. I'd call them more 'local non-talent' than
'celebrity' but their visibility only occurs in the relatively free
information zone of the Internet, and Internet-connected 'news' reporting.

That being said, the formerly readable Rolling Stone once had, in the
seventies, a radio advert with someone saying "Why should I care what Carly
Simon eats for breakfast?"; how they become what they formerly beheld. And
I've been outside my own country since 2000, so go figure.

Oh yeah, I agree that we have a habit of making these 'people' into
something that they are most certainly not. I think much of it stems
from Diana, who they made into something that she never really was and
the outpouring of grief at the death of our princess of hearts, blagh.
then to try and turn Jade Goody into something similar... the mind
boggles.

The whole Hilton thing was a nasty little tale and I really hope that
the money once again goes to charity, though someone else will
probably fight and win it back. They fought for it and then spoiled
that skinny slut so much, it really was obscene.

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...

Paul Heslop wrote:

I just tried finding the post with the swearing in it but I can't see
it except Bill's short one.

As most people on here will be wondering what on earth is going on,
perhaps I should explain.

As you will know, someone hiding behind the pseudonym of Froot Bat
blundered onto this forum in the wake of 'B Hughes', who had criticised
Brian for top posting after 'Tim C' had broadcast this thread across 5
forums.

It is not the last time that someone has reacted to Brian like this
without reading his sig and I doubt it will be the last.

However, after the matter had been explained, 'Froot Bat' decided to
carry on with his/her own little vendetta and I got rather mad!

As 'Froot Bat' seemed impervious to English, I decided a blast of Anglo-
Saxon might get the message across ...

... however, I had a problem with my post because my ISP doesn't seem to
favour the 'broadcast to all' approach and limits my posts to only four
groups!

As the intended redipient, 'Froot Bat', is obviously not a member of
this group, I deleted it and hit 'send'.

If anybody wants to cross post this to the other four groups, go ahead.

I've said all I wanted to and now I quite honestly don't care a damn ...

... (Oops, swearing again!) ...

--

Terry

:O) bad boy, don't do it again. There, consider yourself chastised.

--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/

In article ,
says...

Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...

Paul Heslop wrote:

I just tried finding the post with the swearing in it but I can't see
it except Bill's short one.

As most people on here will be wondering what on earth is going on,
perhaps I should explain.

As you will know, someone hiding behind the pseudonym of Froot Bat
blundered onto this forum in the wake of 'B Hughes', who had criticised
Brian for top posting after 'Tim C' had broadcast this thread across 5
forums.

It is not the last time that someone has reacted to Brian like this
without reading his sig and I doubt it will be the last.

However, after the matter had been explained, 'Froot Bat' decided to
carry on with his/her own little vendetta and I got rather mad!

As 'Froot Bat' seemed impervious to English, I decided a blast of Anglo-
Saxon might get the message across ...

... however, I had a problem with my post because my ISP doesn't seem to
favour the 'broadcast to all' approach and limits my posts to only four
groups!

As the intended redipient, 'Froot Bat', is obviously not a member of
this group, I deleted it and hit 'send'.

If anybody wants to cross post this to the other four groups, go ahead.

I've said all I wanted to and now I quite honestly don't care a damn ...

... (Oops, swearing again!) ...

--

Terry

:O) bad boy, don't do it again. There, consider yourself chastised.

Thank you, Sir! Thank you very much and I promise I won't do it again,
Sir!

I'm sure the pain and the red weals will diminish in a few days but ...

.... Sir! Sir! You DID promise to tell me how to exterminate froot bats
....

....Sir?

--

Terry

Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...

Terry Casey wrote:

In article ,
says...

Paul Heslop wrote:

I just tried finding the post with the swearing in it but I can't see
it except Bill's short one.

As most people on here will be wondering what on earth is going on,
perhaps I should explain.

As you will know, someone hiding behind the pseudonym of Froot Bat
blundered onto this forum in the wake of 'B Hughes', who had criticised
Brian for top posting after 'Tim C' had broadcast this thread across 5
forums.

It is not the last time that someone has reacted to Brian like this
without reading his sig and I doubt it will be the last.

However, after the matter had been explained, 'Froot Bat' decided to
carry on with his/her own little vendetta and I got rather mad!

As 'Froot Bat' seemed impervious to English, I decided a blast of Anglo-
Saxon might get the message across ...

... however, I had a problem with my post because my ISP doesn't seem to
favour the 'broadcast to all' approach and limits my posts to only four
groups!

As the intended redipient, 'Froot Bat', is obviously not a member of
this group, I deleted it and hit 'send'.

If anybody wants to cross post this to the other four groups, go ahead.

I've said all I wanted to and now I quite honestly don't care a damn ...

... (Oops, swearing again!) ...

--

Terry

:O) bad boy, don't do it again. There, consider yourself chastised.

Thank you, Sir! Thank you very much and I promise I won't do it again,
Sir!

I'm sure the pain and the red weals will diminish in a few days but ...

... Sir! Sir! You DID promise to tell me how to exterminate froot bats
...

...Sir?

--

Terry

I think they are a protected species I am afraid.
--
Paul (we break easy)
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/