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  #31  
Old July 9th 09, 02:39 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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Default BBC response to missing Look North


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
brightside S9 wrote:

I am surprised that MJ's funeral wasn't on BBC1 as the world has seen
his death as a global event (well the media says so). I could get to
like Auntie.


It's almost worth writing to the Beeb, and making that point in pretend
innocence.


--
Mark


I say, go on then. What a hoot.

Bill


  #32  
Old July 9th 09, 06:23 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
mikeos
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

That is what is known as "The bugs letter"

There was a story, which may be an urban myth, about a Canadian
Railroad, who sent a letter to a passenger who had complained about
being biten by bedbugs whilst on a sleeper train across the Rockies. The
letter expressed surprise and regret at the incident and assured the
customer that the train had been thoroughly disinfected and that this
was an isolated incident. They hoped that the passenger would not be put
off from travelling with the company again. What did put the passenger
off, however, was the fact that his original letter had been included in
the reply - on the bottom - some manager had scrawled "Send him the Bed
Bugs letter!"

Thank you for your e-mail regarding BBC Look North on 3 July 2009.

I understand that you're frustrated at being unable to view BBC Look North
on 3 July 2009 due to extended coverage of 'Wimbledon'.

We recognise that some areas of the country no longer have analogue
transmissions and therefore regret any inconvenience caused to viewers
affected. You can watch regional news programmes on BBC iPlayer.

www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

BBC One takes the decision to change its schedules very rarely and only
after careful consideration of the potential impact on its audiences. We
appreciate both positive and negative feedback on instances such as these.

One is where viewers come to enjoy great sporting moments of national
importance. Andy Murray?s match was one such occasion. From the outset it
looked like the match was going to be very close so we took the decision to
move it to BBC One as soon as we could and to stay with it right to the end
to ensure that the maximum number of people could enjoy this nail biting
game.

With this in mind please be assured that I've registered your complaint on
our audience log. This is the internal report of audience feedback which we
compile daily for all news editors and scheduling teams within the BBC, and
also their senior management. It ensures that your points, and all other
comments we receive, are circulated and considered across the BBC.

Thank you again for contacting us with your concerns.


Regards

Gemma McCartan

BBC Complaints


  #33  
Old July 9th 09, 06:28 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
mikeos
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

brightside S9 wrote:


This is the BBC telling us what we should regard as priorities in life
in New Media Land.


I am surprised that MJ's funeral wasn't on BBC1 as the world has seen
his death as a global event (well the media says so). I could get to
like Auntie.


I was in Vancouver last week, and on BBC World, the entire hour long
"news" programme was given over to this pop singer's death. It seemed to
go on for a couple of days. Nothing else was happening in the world.
  #34  
Old July 9th 09, 06:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

Bill Wright wrote:
"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Eh?! According to Digital UK, DSO begins Nov 2010. Perhaps you meant
that they don't have DTT?


He means their analogue TV is derived from DSAT.

Bill


Yes, thanks Bill. It's the little thing I usually notice in the wife.
That little bit of statement that makes all the sense is missed. Almost
the same as the conversation suddenly jumping to the topic before last?

Richard
  #35  
Old July 9th 09, 07:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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Default BBC response to missing Look North


"Dickie mint" wrote in message
...
Bill Wright wrote:
"Java Jive" wrote in message
...
Eh?! According to Digital UK, DSO begins Nov 2010. Perhaps you meant
that they don't have DTT?


He means their analogue TV is derived from DSAT.

Bill

Yes, thanks Bill. It's the little thing I usually notice in the wife.
That little bit of statement that makes all the sense is missed. Almost
the same as the conversation suddenly jumping to the topic before last?

Richard


I'll tell you what our lass does. She tells me a tale involving several
different people, then she'll say something like 'she went . . .' or 'he
went . . .' and there have been three or four shes or hes in the tale, and
the one refered to could be any of them. So I say, 'who went, Gladys?' and
our lass gives me a look of withering contempt and says, 'No of course not,
it was Beryl. Why would it be Gladys?'

Bill


  #36  
Old July 10th 09, 08:54 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Steve Bentley
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On 7 July, 15:39, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:
...snip...

We recognise that some areas of the country no longer have analogue
transmissions and therefore regret any inconvenience caused to viewers
affected. You can watch regional news programmes on BBC iPlayer.


www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer


What makes them think all viewers have a PC and can use iPlayer?


It's only half an answer anyway - the streams are off-air recordings,
so several regions didn't put their show up because they hadn't
reconfigured it to record BBC2. BBC Centres like Hull, Oxford and
Cambridge which can't opt on BBC2 analogue independently of their
parent region, and Jersey whose analogue tx is DSat fed didn't do a
programme anyway. Hull is the only one of those which does a full
half hour rather than a sub opt.
  #37  
Old July 10th 09, 11:16 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
Dickie mint
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

Steve Bentley wrote:
On 7 July, 15:39, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:
...snip...

We recognise that some areas of the country no longer have analogue
transmissions and therefore regret any inconvenience caused to viewers
affected. You can watch regional news programmes on BBC iPlayer.
www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer

What makes them think all viewers have a PC and can use iPlayer?


It's only half an answer anyway - the streams are off-air recordings,
so several regions didn't put their show up because they hadn't
reconfigured it to record BBC2. BBC Centres like Hull, Oxford and
Cambridge which can't opt on BBC2 analogue independently of their
parent region, and Jersey whose analogue tx is DSat fed didn't do a
programme anyway. Hull is the only one of those which does a full
half hour rather than a sub opt.

But ALL the regional feeds get sent to the central C & M, so it's not
rocket science to feed them on the iplayer servers.

Richard
  #38  
Old July 11th 09, 12:23 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

In message , brightside S9
writes:
On Thu, 9 Jul 2009 01:39:39 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:


"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
brightside S9 wrote:

I am surprised that MJ's funeral wasn't on BBC1 as the world has seen
his death as a global event (well the media says so). I could get to
like Auntie.

It's almost worth writing to the Beeb, and making that point in pretend
innocence.


--
Mark


I say, go on then. What a hoot.


No, please don't, anybody. It would get taken seriously, and further
depress the quality of the balance.

Hmmm! I am rather busy dealing with BT whose 'computerised' billing
system neglected to give me a 23p discount.
I must be getting higher up the chain of command as the next to last
email I have received from them was from a gentlemand named
Prince Vinoth Arockia Rajan!


(The continued stream of irrelevant correspondence is what made me leave
them - even if I ended up paying more, about which I'm not sure.)

Writing in 'all innocence' is not one of my natural talents, 'pretend
innocence' would be beyond me, so if anyone wishes to try it on with
the Beeb, be my guest.

It's a depressing exercise writing to them anyway - whether in fake
innocence or not; you're most likely to get a response (if you get one
at all) containing some standard text, which isn't relevant to what you
wrote to them about. (And BT, Brutish Gus, ...)
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

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), 1998
  #39  
Old July 11th 09, 12:35 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
J. P. Gilliver (John)
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Default BBC response to missing Look North

In message , mikeos
writes:
That is what is known as "The bugs letter"

There was a story, which may be an urban myth, about a Canadian
Railroad, who sent a letter to a passenger who had complained about
being biten by bedbugs whilst on a sleeper train across the Rockies.
The letter expressed surprise and regret at the incident and assured
the customer that the train had been thoroughly disinfected and that
this was an isolated incident. They hoped that the passenger would not
be put off from travelling with the company again. What did put the
passenger off, however, was the fact that his original letter had been
included in the reply - on the bottom - some manager had scrawled "Send
him the Bed Bugs letter!"


I remember someone saying she was so pleased to get a personal letter
back from Enid Blyton, the children's author, when she wrote a fan
letter - and her incredible disappointment when she received exactly the
same letter on a subsequent occasion. She said it had made her
determined that all children's letters would be truly individually
replied to; I think it might have been Biddy Baxter of Blue Peter fame.

Thank you for your e-mail regarding BBC Look North on 3 July 2009.
I understand that you're frustrated at being unable to view BBC Look
North on 3 July 2009 due to extended coverage of 'Wimbledon'.
We recognise that some areas of the country no longer have analogue
transmissions and therefore regret any inconvenience caused to viewers
affected. You can watch regional news programmes on BBC iPlayer.


As another has said, this is very condescending and irritating. Along
with the endless plugging of iPlayer, the red button (though they do
seem to mention that less now), and websites. A large proportion of the
BBC's audience (possibly particularly so) are not computerate, and/or
don't have the necessary broadband.
[]
With this in mind please be assured that I've registered your
complaint on our audience log. This is the internal report of
audience feedback which we compile daily for all news editors and
scheduling teams within the BBC, and also their senior management. It
ensures that your points, and all other comments we receive, are

binned
circulated and considered across the BBC.

[]
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G.5AL-IS-P--Ch++(p)[email protected]+Sh0!:`)DNAf
** http://www.soft255.demon.co.uk/G6JPG-PC/JPGminPC.htm for ludicrously
outdated thoughts on PCs. **

Veni Vidi Visa [I came, I saw, I did a little shopping] - Mik from S+AS Limited
), 1998
  #40  
Old July 13th 09, 10:12 AM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv
charles
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In article ,
J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

It's a depressing exercise writing to them anyway - whether in fake
innocence or not; you're most likely to get a response (if you get one
at all) containing some standard text, which isn't relevant to what you
wrote to them about. (And BT, Brutish Gus, ...)


and your MP :-(

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