Pioneer ITV Digital box

Hello all,

Just grabbed a Pioneer ITV digital box from the carboot (50p, bargin i
thought) so I can have freeview with a TV without scart (RF modulator).

It's all setup and I can get a picture but unfortunately the buttons on
the box are unresponsive (I didn't get a remote) apart from after i
initially power the box on when it allows me to select a single channel,
and then won't budge from that one. I understand this freezing is typical
of such boxes??

Is there anything that can be done to improve this?

Thanks

"Keiron" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Just grabbed a Pioneer ITV digital box from the carboot (50p, bargin i
thought) so I can have freeview with a TV without scart (RF modulator).

It's all setup and I can get a picture but unfortunately the buttons on
the box are unresponsive (I didn't get a remote) apart from after i
initially power the box on when it allows me to select a single channel,
and then won't budge from that one. I understand this freezing is typical
of such boxes??

Is there anything that can be done to improve this?


I had one and in those days was the best one available from my experience,
it did get replaced in more recent days by me.
Over the years the features used by broadcasters have changed and been added
to and these older ONdigi/ITV Digital boxes and even some early Freeview
boxes can't cope with. It could be this that is your basic problem.
Also without a remote I think will not help it maybe some function buttons
required not actualy duplicated on the box.
You could get a Universal remote making sure it does have codes for UK
Terrestrial Digital before purchase, even a Pound shop might have one.
Might be a waste of money though.

If you do not already have Freeview they come at £15 from supermarkets, and
are up to date with features.

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Regards,
David

FREESAT HD as it is now it is a joke.

David wrote:

If you do not already have Freeview they come at £15 from supermarkets,
and are up to date with features.

Except for a modulated RF output, which is why the OP has bought himself the
Pioneer.

I've got a Pace, and it is only controllable by the remote control. ISTR that
the MHEG graphics/text engine disables the front panel controls. I can't
remember whether that's Pace specific, or it affects all of the OnD/ITV
Digital models ?

Also be aware, that the box is likely to be only 2k COFDM compatible, so it
probably won't work at all after DSO hits your area.



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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
...
David wrote:

If you do not already have Freeview they come at £15 from supermarkets,
and are up to date with features.

Except for a modulated RF output, which is why the OP has bought himself
the Pioneer.


Two models of tvonics Freeview boxes do have modulators, but they typically
cost £35+.

"Keiron" wrote in message ...
Hello all,

Just grabbed a Pioneer ITV digital box from the carboot (50p, bargin i
thought) so I can have freeview with a TV without scart (RF modulator).

It's all setup and I can get a picture but unfortunately the buttons on
the box are unresponsive (I didn't get a remote) apart from after i
initially power the box on when it allows me to select a single channel,
and then won't budge from that one. I understand this freezing is typical
of such boxes??

Is there anything that can be done to improve this?


As I recall there was a software update that disabled the front panel controls on my Nokia OnDigital box.
I don't think it was the only brand affected
--
Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:37:50 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

David wrote:
--snip--
I've got a Pace, and it is only controllable by the remote control. ISTR
that the MHEG graphics/text engine disables the front panel controls. I
can't remember whether that's Pace specific, or it affects all of the
OnD/ITV Digital models ?
--snip--

Hi David. It seems you've really hit on something here. Having no AV
knowledge I'd never heard of MHEG but a bit of research suggested that
the update the bbc recently performed on its MHEG is too much for these
old boxes to handle. It seems, tho, that the UK standard for subtitles on
digital services is MHEG too so by enabling subs it prevents other MHEG
data being downloaded and as such, for whatever reason, prevents the
front panel being 'locked-out'. With subs going on my box all is well,
and acceptable as my needs are modest in this respect and that it's not
my main veiwing box.

I would however like to know if there is a way to permanently disable
MHEG on my box (Pioneer dbr-t210gbn) using the remote, but obviously I
don't want to dish out for it unnecessarily. Any thoughts?

Cheers

Keiron

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:51:18 +0000, Keiron wrote:

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:37:50 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:

David wrote:
--snip--
I've got a Pace, and it is only controllable by the remote control.
ISTR that the MHEG graphics/text engine disables the front panel
controls. I can't remember whether that's Pace specific, or it affects
all of the OnD/ITV Digital models ?
--snip--

Hi David. It seems you've really hit on something here. Having no AV
knowledge I'd never heard of MHEG but a bit of research suggested that
the update the bbc recently performed on its MHEG is too much for these
old boxes to handle. It seems, tho, that the UK standard for subtitles
on digital services is MHEG too so by enabling subs it prevents other
MHEG data being downloaded and as such, for whatever reason, prevents
the front panel being 'locked-out'. With subs going on my box all is
well, and acceptable as my needs are modest in this respect and that
it's not my main veiwing box.

I would however like to know if there is a way to permanently disable
MHEG on my box (Pioneer dbr-t210gbn) using the remote, but obviously I
don't want to dish out for it unnecessarily. Any thoughts?

Cheers

Keiron

Sorry, meant Mark on this occassion. Thanks david too tho!!

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 17:30:52 +0100, David wrote:

"Keiron" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Just grabbed a Pioneer ITV digital box from the carboot (50p, bargin i
thought) so I can have freeview with a TV without scart (RF modulator).

It's all setup and I can get a picture but unfortunately the buttons on
the box are unresponsive (I didn't get a remote) apart from after i
initially power the box on when it allows me to select a single
channel, and then won't budge from that one. I understand this freezing
is typical of such boxes??

Is there anything that can be done to improve this?


I had one and in those days was the best one available from my
experience, it did get replaced in more recent days by me. Over the
years the features used by broadcasters have changed and been added to
and these older ONdigi/ITV Digital boxes and even some early Freeview
boxes can't cope with. It could be this that is your basic problem.
Also without a remote I think will not help it maybe some function
buttons required not actualy duplicated on the box. You could get a
Universal remote making sure it does have codes for UK Terrestrial
Digital before purchase, even a Pound shop might have one. Might be a
waste of money though.

If you do not already have Freeview they come at £15 from supermarkets,
and are up to date with features.

I'll possibly look in to the remote if i can ensure theres no error with
the box. I do have freeview but i wanted this for an old set i've got,
new boxes seem largely to have loop-through only, unless you pay a small
premium i guess.


Cheers

On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 18:38:09 +0100, Dr Zoidberg wrote:

"Keiron" wrote in message
...
Hello all,

Just grabbed a Pioneer ITV digital box from the carboot (50p, bargin i
thought) so I can have freeview with a TV without scart (RF modulator).

It's all setup and I can get a picture but unfortunately the buttons on
the box are unresponsive (I didn't get a remote) apart from after i
initially power the box on when it allows me to select a single
channel, and then won't budge from that one. I understand this freezing
is typical of such boxes??

Is there anything that can be done to improve this?


As I recall there was a software update that disabled the front panel
controls on my Nokia OnDigital box. I don't think it was the only brand
affected

Hi. I've found that this is the case but relates to MHEG upgrade, not box
upgrades. It seems that enabling subtitles prevent MHEG downloading other
data and so the front panel will function while subs are active. Looking
for a means to disable MHEG fully now tho. Ideas?

Hardly going to break the bank though is it?
I do hate to throw away basically good kit though. Its these damned folk who
keep moving the goalposts that cause all this mayhem.

Brian

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in the display name may be lost.
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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David wrote:

If you do not already have Freeview they come at £15 from supermarkets,
and are up to date with features.

Except for a modulated RF output, which is why the OP has bought himself
the Pioneer.


Two models of tvonics Freeview boxes do have modulators, but they
typically cost £35+.