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"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Ivan
scribeth thus

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Laurence Payne
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I've just done a production of "Oh What a Lovely War" with young
adults. They'd just about heard of WW1. But that was it. They
connected emotionally with it about as much as they did with the
Crimean War or the conflicts against Napoleon. WW2 is only one
generation later. I'm not sure they'd have connected any more with
that.

I was just thinking while watching some of the moon-landing 40th
anniversary stuff on TV (some of it repeated from the 30th anniversary
because there sadly isn't much new stuff to add), that it's nearly as
far into the past now as the first world war was when the moon landing
project was taking place.

And the first world war seemed like history to me even then (the second
one having been over before I was born), so lunar exploration probably
seems like ancient history to many of today's adults.


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Although World War one is still less than a lifetime ago for at least one
man, our local boy Harry Patch...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/conten...atch_feature.s
html


Bless 'im;!..

My daughter went on a trip to the memorial at Theipval the other week
and found one of her distant past cousins thereon, his remains somewhere
around that area and gone at the tender age of 21 years old;(

Just remarked that well she and her mates came back home and he didn't
and oddly enough they both left from the same railway station;!..

What caused a lot of upset to their party was that there were other
children jumping all over the memorial stones and not one teacher tried
to intervene to stop them!..




I know exactly what you mean, I recently saw a couple of hyperactive brats
belonging to a very 'noisy' school group in a museum virtually wrecking a
display item bearing the legend, 'please do not touch this machine, as it is
more than 100 years old and very delicate', with their young charges
apparently not in the least way concerned.. in my day we walked around
quietly observing, making notes, communicating quietly and didn't touch,
simply because it was more than we dared do!

On Jun 28, 5:15*pm, "Ivan" wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message

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In article , Ivan
scribeth thus

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
vethisbit.myzen.co.uk....
In article , Laurence Payne
wrote:
I've just done a production of "Oh What a Lovely War" with young
adults. *They'd just about heard of WW1. *But that was it. *They
connected emotionally with it about as much as they did with the
Crimean War or the conflicts against Napoleon. *WW2 is only one
generation later. *I'm not sure they'd have connected any more with
that.

I was just thinking while watching some of the moon-landing 40th
anniversary stuff on TV (some of it repeated from the 30th anniversary
because there sadly isn't much new stuff to add), that it's nearly as
far into the past now as the first world war was when the moon landing
project was taking place.

And the first world war seemed like history to me even then (the second
one having been over before I was born), so lunar exploration probably
seems like ancient history to many of today's adults.

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Although World War one is still less than a lifetime ago for at least one
man, our local boy Harry Patch...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/conten...30/harry_patch....
html

Bless 'im;!..

My daughter went on a trip to the memorial at Theipval the other week
and found one of her distant past cousins thereon, his remains somewhere
around that area and gone at the tender age of 21 years old;(

Just remarked that well she and her mates came back home and he didn't
and oddly enough they both left from the same railway station;!..

What caused a lot of upset to their party was that there were other
children jumping all over the memorial stones and not one teacher tried
to intervene to stop them!..

I know exactly what you mean, I recently saw a couple of hyperactive brats
belonging to a very 'noisy' school group in a museum virtually wrecking a
display item bearing the legend, 'please do not touch this machine, as it is
more than 100 years old and very delicate', with their young charges
apparently not in the least way concerned.. in my day we walked around
quietly observing, making notes, communicating quietly and didn't touch,
simply because it was more than we dared do!- Hide quoted text -

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I have heard the saying: "A hard head makes for a damn sore ass", but,
I have not heard it recently. I think that discipline is not what it
once was among children because they may not be allowed to be told
what it is. When I was young, there wasn't much .-problem keeping
order, not because there was no great desire to misbehave, not because
sore asses were common, but because everybody knew asses could get
sore..

"Kay Robinson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 22:15:46 +0100, "Ivan"
sharpened a new quill and scratched:


"tony sayer" wrote in message
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In article , Ivan
scribeth thus

"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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sbit.myzen.co.uk...
In article , Laurence
Payne
wrote:
I've just done a production of "Oh What a Lovely War" with young
adults. They'd just about heard of WW1. But that was it. They
connected emotionally with it about as much as they did with the
Crimean War or the conflicts against Napoleon. WW2 is only one
generation later. I'm not sure they'd have connected any more with
that.

I was just thinking while watching some of the moon-landing 40th
anniversary stuff on TV (some of it repeated from the 30th anniversary
because there sadly isn't much new stuff to add), that it's nearly as
far into the past now as the first world war was when the moon landing
project was taking place.

And the first world war seemed like history to me even then (the
second
one having been over before I was born), so lunar exploration probably
seems like ancient history to many of today's adults.


|
Although World War one is still less than a lifetime ago for at least
one
man, our local boy Harry Patch...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/somerset/conten...atch_feature.s
html


Bless 'im;!..

My daughter went on a trip to the memorial at Theipval the other week
and found one of her distant past cousins thereon, his remains somewhere
around that area and gone at the tender age of 21 years old;(

Just remarked that well she and her mates came back home and he didn't
and oddly enough they both left from the same railway station;!..

What caused a lot of upset to their party was that there were other
children jumping all over the memorial stones and not one teacher tried
to intervene to stop them!..




I know exactly what you mean, I recently saw a couple of hyperactive brats
belonging to a very 'noisy' school group in a museum virtually wrecking a
display item bearing the legend, 'please do not touch this machine, as it
is
more than 100 years old and very delicate', with their young charges
apparently not in the least way concerned.. in my day we walked around
quietly observing, making notes, communicating quietly and didn't touch,
simply because it was more than we dared do!


The teachers were allowed to discipline their charges in those days.
The banning of this, and 'Grange Hill' has changed the concept of the
well brought up child forever.



I agree, and whilst I'm a long way from being a supporter of excessive
physical punishment (I remember its use only too well!) I can't help
thinking that we've erred too much in the direction of everyone knowing
their rights but not their responsibilities, I don't think that it's a
problem entirely peculiar to the UK, however AIUI we may well be worse in
certain aspects than some other places.

"Kay Robinson" wrote in message
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The teachers were allowed to discipline their charges in those days.
The banning of this, and 'Grange Hill' has changed the concept of the
well brought up child forever.

It is all the fault of Ant 'n Dec.
--
JohnT

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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:11:52 +0100, "Bill Wright"
wrote:

A lot of stupid lefty Brits are resentful of American success. They
should
remember that if it wasn't for the USA's policies of selflessly
supporting
freedom worldwide (at great cost to that nation) over the last 100 years,
we'd all be talking Geman now and living under the jackboot.

Britain stopped the German advance at the channel long before the USA
entered the war. Even if they had successfully invaded Britain it's
unlikely we would be talking Geman now, there was no attempt to
Germanise most of the territory they invaded. Only in Alsace Loraine
and a few bits of eastern europe they regarded as part of Germany was
there any attempt to replace the local language with Geman.

Anyone on here see "Downfall" ["Der Untergang"]? Terrifying..

More likely Nazi Germany would eventually have had a democracy
uprising, as happen to the Soviet Union.

And as in new Russian they now acknowledge their Stalinist atrocities.

Steve Terry

"Kay Robinson" wrote in message
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On Fri, 26 Jun 2009 23:11:52 +0100, "Bill Wright"
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"Leonard Caillouet" wrote in message
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"John H" wrote in message
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War will never cease until all nations have a nuclear
deterrant, then they'd all be to scared to act. You previosly claimed
to be a socialist, something the USA sees as the biggest danger to the
world. Maybe you're just in two minds about it all :-)
Kay


Klaus Fuchs believed that twaddle, that's why he gave the secrets of
Los Alamos to Stalin's Soviet union.
After Stalin's Soviet union developed their own in 1949 thanks to Fuchs,
he'd realised what he'd done.
and it's thanks to such proliferation, Iran and N Korea now threaten
the world

i.e. If the Soviet union hadn't had the Atomic bomb in 1952.
General Macarthur could have nuked North Korea into submission
in a repeat of Hiroshima, saving the millions who have died of starvation,
war and disease in the peninsular since.

and going even further, if Moscow was nuked around 1950?
Millions more of Stalin's victims could have been saved

Lets face it although it was awful, the nuking of Japan was in the long term
a huge life saving and political success

Steve Terry

Steve Terry wrote:

Klaus Fuchs believed that twaddle, that's why he gave the secrets of
Los Alamos to Stalin's Soviet union.
After Stalin's Soviet union developed their own in 1949 thanks to Fuchs,

[...remainder of OT babble snipped]

It sure would be nice if this thread had *something* to do with the
topic of this newsgroup - digital TV. Gawd, I hate crossposted threads.

Steve Terry wrote:

More likely Nazi Germany would eventually have had a democracy
uprising, as happen to the Soviet Union.

And as in new Russian they now acknowledge their Stalinist atrocities.

Ah...digital TV, guys. Remember?

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 18:31:01 +0100, "Steve Terry"
wrote:

i.e. If the Soviet union hadn't had the Atomic bomb in 1952.
General Macarthur could have nuked North Korea into submission
in a repeat of Hiroshima, saving the millions who have died of starvation,
war and disease in the peninsular since.

and going even further, if Moscow was nuked around 1950?
Millions more of Stalin's victims could have been saved

We had to Nuke the village to save it!

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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Steve Terry wrote:

Klaus Fuchs believed that twaddle, that's why he gave the secrets of
Los Alamos to Stalin's Soviet union.
After Stalin's Soviet union developed their own in 1949 thanks to Fuchs,

[...remainder of OT babble snipped]

Gawd, I hate crossposted threads.



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