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Hi

I have an LG TV (37LG60000)

When I bought it I had a basic SKY box.

One of the options for the TV in the "Picture" setup was "Original" - and
although I hadn't completely familiarised myself, I think that setting would
automatically set the display to whatever the viewed programme had been
created for.

However, within days of getting the TV I was lucky enough to win a SKY+ HD
box (with a year's subscription to the total SKY package, including HD!!!!!)

That was installed, and I love it - but for one thing. The option "Original"
is now greyed out. So I have to keep setting the screen display manually.

Is this normal - and if not, how do I get automatic display settings?


Thanks


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Hi

I have an LG TV (37LG60000)

When I bought it I had a basic SKY box.

One of the options for the TV in the "Picture" setup was "Original" - and
although I hadn't completely familiarised myself, I think that setting
would automatically set the display to whatever the viewed programme had
been created for.

However, within days of getting the TV I was lucky enough to win a SKY+ HD
box (with a year's subscription to the total SKY package, including
HD!!!!!)

That was installed, and I love it - but for one thing. The option
"Original" is now greyed out. So I have to keep setting the screen display
manually.

Is this normal - and if not, how do I get automatic display settings?


Thanks

Not 100% sure but I imagine the setting is not appropriate for
an HDMI source, and your old Digibox was connected by
SCART.

--
Graham.

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"wasted" wrote in message
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Hi

I have an LG TV (37LG60000)

When I bought it I had a basic SKY box.

One of the options for the TV in the "Picture" setup was "Original" - and
although I hadn't completely familiarised myself, I think that setting
would automatically set the display to whatever the viewed programme had
been created for.

However, within days of getting the TV I was lucky enough to win a SKY+
HD box (with a year's subscription to the total SKY package, including
HD!!!!!)

That was installed, and I love it - but for one thing. The option
"Original" is now greyed out. So I have to keep setting the screen
display manually.

Is this normal - and if not, how do I get automatic display settings?


Thanks

Not 100% sure but I imagine the setting is not appropriate for
an HDMI source, and your old Digibox was connected by
SCART.

--
Graham.

That's correct about the cabling - but is it the norm to have to keep
changing the picture size/ratio for different programmes?




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"wasted" wrote in message
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Hi

I have an LG TV (37LG60000)

When I bought it I had a basic SKY box.

One of the options for the TV in the "Picture" setup was "Original" -
and although I hadn't completely familiarised myself, I think that
setting would automatically set the display to whatever the viewed
programme had been created for.

However, within days of getting the TV I was lucky enough to win a SKY+
HD box (with a year's subscription to the total SKY package, including
HD!!!!!)

That was installed, and I love it - but for one thing. The option
"Original" is now greyed out. So I have to keep setting the screen
display manually.

Is this normal - and if not, how do I get automatic display settings?


Thanks

Not 100% sure but I imagine the setting is not appropriate for
an HDMI source, and your old Digibox was connected by
SCART.

--
Graham.

That's correct about the cabling - but is it the norm to have to keep
changing the picture size/ratio for different programmes?


What I would expect is the for the whole frame to be displayed
regardless of aspect ratio.

What a lot of people expect however, is the entire screen to be
filled with a picture even when the screen is 16:9 and the source
is 4:3. Clearly this is impossible without cropping and/or stretching
which I would find objectionable.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

In message , Graham.
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What a lot of people expect however, is the entire screen to be
filled with a picture even when the screen is 16:9 and the source
is 4:3.

Most decent TVs seem to have this capability.

Clearly this is impossible without cropping and/or stretching
which I would find objectionable.


On most decent TVs/systems most people wouldn't notice. The amount of
cropping can be minimal and the amount of stretch can be disguised with
non-linear stretch algorithms with the centre of the screen hardly
showing any aspect ratio change.
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Alan
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On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 14:59:35 +0100, Alan
wrote:

What a lot of people expect however, is the entire screen to be
filled with a picture even when the screen is 16:9 and the source
is 4:3.

Most decent TVs seem to have this capability.

Clearly this is impossible without cropping and/or stretching
which I would find objectionable.


On most decent TVs/systems most people wouldn't notice. The amount of
cropping can be minimal and the amount of stretch can be disguised with
non-linear stretch algorithms with the centre of the screen hardly
showing any aspect ratio change.

It's amazing how many people set up for a "fill the screen no matter
what". Perhaps they like fat women.

There's an odd setting on the LG TV I'm looking at now. The screen
surround is black (thank goodness - what WAS it with those silver
frames?). But when watching a 4:3 picture the default colour for the
empty screen area was a quite off-putting light gray. I had to find a
"hidden" menu to change them to black.

The great thing about using scart was, if everything was set up
correctly and with decent makes of TV etc, that the aspect ratio
switched automatically depending on the programme being transmitted.

The major problem is that very few people ever set the system up to
work correctly. True, most of our customers are older but this is no
real relevance as the younger ones often rush at the installation like
bulls at gates and dont spend any time with the finer points, it
seems.

We never make a service call without checking all of the aspect ratio
settings on each piece of equipment.

Very few people have set up their DVD players to suit widescreen tv.

Many people have not set up their SKY box to 16x9 since they updated
the TV.

(This week we went, for some other reason, to a very posh lady who
was watching the tennis from the Sky box in 4x3 on her widescreen set
and initially was very much against anything being touched as she was
so adament that she did not want short fat people. The sky box had not
been set to 16x9 of course, so the sides of the pic were being cropped
and no amount of her fiddling with the aspect button on the tv had any
useful effect. She just said that she wished she had not bought a
widescreen tv! Once we demonstrated true widescreen she was very
happy)

Many people have no idea that if they set their TV up for auto
switching, it will do its best to switch when told by the other
equipment or the broadcaster.
A number of the lesser channels on Sky run in full-time widescreen
nomatter what the programme and a some run in "tall-thin" mode
continuously.

Just as we were making headway, and getting many of our regular
customers sorted out and also managing to convince them that not
everything is designed to fit the width of their TV.....HD and HDMI
came along, with no auto switching, for the most part!! And, with the
exception of a few combinations of equipment, no auto source
switching! I couldn't believe it!
For those who say that all HD programming is in widescreen, so it
might be, but the same Sky box etc is used for viewing
older 4x3 progs and there is no way that people are going to put up
with having it connected both ways and switch to scart sometimes and
HDMI at other times.

As a matter of interest, one item that does cope with most of the
aspect switching, if it is set up correctly, is the Humax Foxsat HD
PVR

Our other problem, as someone else said, is that some people will not
be happy unless the programme fills the screen at all times, no matter
what and they seem totally oblivious as to the shape of the picture.

Personally I will not watch a distorted picture and no amount of
"clever processing" can make a 4x3 programme watchable in anything
other than 4x3.



In short...I agree with "Wasted", HDMI is a backward step in some
ways. The Sky box should handle the compression of 4x3 progs (like the
Foxsat) and not rely on the TV.....which generally doesnt do it.

"widgitt" wrote in message
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In short...I agree with "Wasted", HDMI is a backward step in some
ways. The Sky box should handle the compression of 4x3 progs (like the
Foxsat) and not rely on the TV.....which generally doesnt do it.




I think the idea however is that the sky box SHOULD output the 4x3 with bars
on the side (or if your using a 4x3 output) it should just insert it's own
bars at the top and bottom for widescreen.
The niggle I had for years was that some stations (and say hi to Virgin1)
still switch from WS to 4:3 when playing adverts!.. I hate to see the source
change in the middle of an advert, or right when the show is about to
return.

On Jun 29, 1:35*am, "mr deo"
wrote:
"widgitt" wrote in message

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In short...I agree with "Wasted", *HDMI is a backward step in some
ways. The Sky box should handle the compression of 4x3 progs (like the
Foxsat) and not rely on the TV.....which generally doesnt do it.

I think the idea however is that the sky box SHOULD output the 4x3 with bars
on the side (or if your using a 4x3 output) it should just insert it's own
bars at the top and bottom for widescreen.
The niggle I had for years was that some stations (and say hi to Virgin1)
still switch from WS to 4:3 when playing adverts!.. I hate to see the source
change in the middle of an advert, or right when the show is about to
return.

The Sky box won't transmit any bars side ot top/bottom. That's the TVs
job to fill them in or not. All the Sky box can do is send the
switching signal to tell the TV what mode it should be in, and then
it's generally down to the viewer to decide how that should be dealt
with.

"Mike" wrote in message
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On Jun 29, 1:35 am, "mr deo"
wrote:

The Sky box won't transmit any bars side ot top/bottom. That's the TVs
job to fill them in or not. All the Sky box can do is send the
switching signal to tell the TV what mode it should be in, and then
it's generally down to the viewer to decide how that should be dealt
with.

I know, what I am saying is that as the output of HDMI is something that's
pushed full screen, the bars need to be added by the transmission box
(Receiver), and not the display (TV)..