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Old June 25th 09, 04:22 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Steve Terry[_2_]
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"DAB sounds worse than FM" wrote in message
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"Steve Terry" wrote in message

"Kráftéé" wrote in message
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jasee wrote:
Alan wrote:
In message , DAB sounds worse
than FM wrote
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Why would anyone want to sign something that may prevent us getting
hundreds of radio stations on DAB?

Why would it do that?
How many more rubbish radio stations (at lower quality than FM) do
you want anyway?

But with a greater bandwidth they wouldn't have to compress the audio
so much & so you could have better quality sound, the way it should
be!

What we need is more compression to recreate a greater bandwidth,
with DRM that's what you get



Where are you getting this stuff about DRM from? A typical DRM station is
the BBC World Service, which transmits in a 9 or 10 kHz bandwidth channel
and it uses a bit rate of about 20 kbps. The audio quality is so bad that
it makes DAB sound good in comparison, and I consider the audio quality on
DAB to be dire.

If you tried DAB at 20kbps it would be even worse

If you really mean DRM+ then that's a different story, but DRM without the
+ is a crap, low quality system that's only really meant to replace MW
stations. And DRM doesn't stand a chance of getting established in the UK
now, because I don't think there are any receivers in teh shops that
support DRM - if there are any there's only one or two.


Yes of course DRM+, of course there aren't any receivers for sale
no one is broadcasting DRM+ yet

Guess what, the Flux capacitor for time travel isn't available yet either.

Steve Terry


  #62  
Old June 25th 09, 04:25 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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"JN" [email protected] wrote in message
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Kráftéé wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
| "Alan" wrote in message
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|| In message , DAB sounds worse
|| than
|| FM wrote
||| There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:
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||| http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

snip
This Internet Radio sounds like the dogs b#ll#cks, how can I receive it in
my car at the same cost as FM broadcasts (I only listen to the radio in a
car).
JN


I receive internet radio on my laptop anywhere with my Three 3g dongle,
5 quid per month.

Steve Terry




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Old June 25th 09, 04:37 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


mad
So why do we need the American spelling "Analog" in this petition?

PLEASE why can't we remain British and use ENGLISH in this country....
/mad
A
  #64  
Old June 25th 09, 04:39 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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"Andy Dee" wrote in message
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DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/
Please sign. Thanks.

mad
So why do we need the American spelling "Analog" in this petition?

PLEASE why can't we remain British and use ENGLISH in this country....
/mad
A


Because most of these pointless petitions are written by idiots

Steve Terry


  #65  
Old June 25th 09, 04:41 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
jasee
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Steve Terry wrote:
"JN" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Kráftéé wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"Alan" wrote in message

In message , DAB sounds worse
than
FM wrote
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched
off: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

snip
This Internet Radio sounds like the dogs b#ll#cks, how can I receive
it in my car at the same cost as FM broadcasts (I only listen to the
radio in a car).
JN


I receive internet radio on my laptop anywhere with my Three 3g
dongle, 5 quid per month.


I've also used a 3g dongle with 3g: it's pretty crap here and also over vast
areas of the UK (even by 3g's own map)


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Old June 25th 09, 05:10 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
BobC
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Default Petition to stop FM being switched off

On 25 June, 15:21, Mark Carver wrote:
Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 25 Jun 2009 12:04:29 +0100, charles wrote:


Do not forget that if DAB beomes the normal broadcast medium, there will
be more transmitters


You hope... The Beeb currently quote 86% of UK population covered for
DAB with plans to 90%. Not that is "UK population" not land mass.
Anyone have the figures for the coverage of the national networks on
FM?


ISTR it's about 96% of the UK population (for BBC R1-4), Classic FM is
85-90% ish I think.


DAB certainly hasn't reached our area yet, and it seems no concrete
plans for it in the near future.
Presumably they'll have to START it in our area before they can
consider switching FM off.
Could be quite a long wait according to this...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/local_rad..._feature.shtml

  #67  
Old June 25th 09, 06:04 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
JN
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Default Petition to stop FM being switched off

jasee wrote:
Steve Terry wrote:
"JN" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Kráftéé wrote:
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
"Alan" wrote in message

In message , DAB sounds worse
than
FM wrote
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched
off: http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

snip
This Internet Radio sounds like the dogs b#ll#cks, how can I receive
it in my car at the same cost as FM broadcasts (I only listen to the
radio in a car).
JN


I receive internet radio on my laptop anywhere with my Three 3g
dongle, 5 quid per month.


I've also used a 3g dongle with 3g: it's pretty crap here and also over vast
areas of the UK (even by 3g's own map)


I was not serious about Internet Radio but some seem to believe the
Internet is the holy grail for everything no matter how impractical
(setting up laptop and mobile in my car before setting off each morning ).
To have decent programmes usually requires a reasonable investment in
talent and I don't see how tiny internet stations can achieve this
without a mass market. As far as I can see the more stations we have the
worse the material on offer. DTV seems to be a good example, I'm often
seeing the same programmes on that I watched in the 1960/70's.

Most current commercial radio stations are fairly dire, usually playing
almost continuous music or having intentionally provocative presenters
to generate revenue from phone ins.

JN
  #68  
Old June 25th 09, 06:49 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
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Of course, one of the problems with these relatively low frequencies is
the size of the aerial, especially for handheld portable use


I like big rubber duckies .....


  #69  
Old June 25th 09, 08:29 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Bill Wright
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"Andy Dee" wrote in message
...
DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
There's a 10 Downing St petition to stop FM/AM being switched off:

http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/AM-FM-Radio/

Please sign. Thanks.


mad
So why do we need the American spelling "Analog" in this petition?

PLEASE why can't we remain British and use ENGLISH in this country....
/mad
A

I'm afraid the Times spells it 'analog'.

Bill


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Old June 25th 09, 08:37 PM posted to uk.tech.broadcast,uk.tech.digital-tv,uk.telecom.broadband,uk.telecom.mobile
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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In article , Jn wrote:
I receive internet radio on my laptop anywhere with my Three 3g
dongle, 5 quid per month.


I've also used a 3g dongle with 3g: it's pretty crap here and also over

vast
areas of the UK (even by 3g's own map)


I was not serious about Internet Radio but some seem to believe the
Internet is the holy grail for everything no matter how impractical


What's impractical today will be commonplace tomorrow if enough people want it,
or if somebody sees a marketing possibility. A 3G internet car radio with a
reasonable number of presets doesn't need us to invent anything new - just to
extend and reconfigure what we've already got. With literally thousands of
radio stations, everybody can have their choice of quality or quantity.

Rod.
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