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Old June 22nd 09, 05:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's
very easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am
still within the law. And before you say "how do I know it is" I've
tested it through those smiley radar thingies that tell you how fast
you are going and also using a GPS and I've yet to be photographed by a
GATSO when I pass one at 33, 44, 55, 66 and/or 77 mph displayed (as
appropriate).


But how do you explain Toyota adding more than 10% to the official MPG
figures? ;-)

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Old June 22nd 09, 07:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's
very easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am
still within the law. And before you say "how do I know it is" I've
tested it through those smiley radar thingies that tell you how fast
you are going and also using a GPS and I've yet to be photographed by a
GATSO when I pass one at 33, 44, 55, 66 and/or 77 mph displayed (as
appropriate).


But how do you explain Toyota adding more than 10% to the official MPG
figures? ;-)

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Don't start me off! I did manage to get 63mpg over 120-odd very gentle
miles once but the realistic figure is 48 winter and around 53 summer.
Still not bad......

Incidentally I understand it's a theoretical mpg based upon a (government
designed) computer simulation and the data put therein comes from the
manufacturer under a closely monitored and checked scheme. Bet it doesn't
allow for fat *******s like me..................... :-(

Chas

  #63  
Old June 22nd 09, 08:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Chas Gill wrote:
But how do you explain Toyota adding more than 10% to the official MPG
figures? ;-)


Don't start me off! I did manage to get 63mpg over 120-odd very gentle
miles once but the realistic figure is 48 winter and around 53 summer.
Still not bad......


Incidentally I understand it's a theoretical mpg based upon a
(government designed) computer simulation and the data put therein
comes from the manufacturer under a closely monitored and checked
scheme. Bet it doesn't allow for fat *******s like
me..................... :-(


;-)

A pal worked for a dealer and lent me an early one for a week. I was very
interested in the technology. I took some friends to a wedding in Aberdeen
- from London - so it was fully loaded. And drove it on the journey like I
drive any car - ie speed limit plus what I think I'll get away with. And
got 27 mpg for the journey. My then BMW 525 petrol auto got about 36 on
the same journey which I do about twice a year. But would clime Shap
without noticing...

Of course if I were doing lots of London miles in rush hour things would
be different. But I prefer to use PT for those journeys. Which are luckily
rare.

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Old June 22nd 09, 08:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's very
easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am still within
the law.


I've got an Avometer Model 8 that reads 11% over on AC.....

;-)

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Old June 22nd 09, 09:46 PM
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It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max.
My Vauxhall reads 2 to 3mph high across the legal range, according to my Tom Tom (whose accuracy I believe, except when driving between trees). That's about as accurate as any production car I've ever driven. My brother had a Sunbeam Alpine (horrible car) that displayed 70mph when he was doing 60. I followed him up the A1 using CB radio to compare readings.

Manufacturers have to allow some margin to accommodate tyre wear, which accounts for about 2% discrepancy, and different makes of tyre (another 1% or thereabouts). Of course if you fit non-standard wheels and/or tyres, the accuracy could be a lot worse (or better). And tyre pressures.

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Old June 22nd 09, 10:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0100, "Tom E" wrote:

have all experienced this.

Travelling up the M3 this morning, very busy, me sitting in middle

lane
doing about 80. Two cars in front and then a motorcycle sitting just
to the

But, at the end of the day, the maximum permitted speed limit is still
only 70.

and have you tried doing that when all 3 lanes are at 80.........its
more dangerous than sticking to the limit.

Really? If you are driving in the nearside lane, as I'm sure that you
know you should, how can traffic behind you force you to go faster?

It can't. I just means that you have a constant stream of people pulling
out into lane 2 behind you, meaning the chances of a collision occurring
right next to you is higher than it would otherwise be.

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Then you should do it, and let the people hit each other.


How many times do you suppose someone might realise a tad too late and
try to swerve back into your lane, side swiping you in the process?

Personally I prefer to avoid causing an obstruction in the first place.

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  #67  
Old June 23rd 09, 12:48 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's very
easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am still
within
the law.


I've got an Avometer Model 8 that reads 11% over on AC.....


It's my belief that my doctor's chloresterol meter is way out.

Bill


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Old June 23rd 09, 12:51 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Chas Gill;471707 Wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max.


My Vauxhall reads 2 to 3mph high across the legal range, according to
my Tom Tom (whose accuracy I believe, except when driving between
trees). That's about as accurate as any production car I've ever
driven. My brother had a Sunbeam Alpine (horrible car) that displayed
70mph when he was doing 60. I followed him up the A1 using CB radio to
compare readings.

Manufacturers have to allow some margin to accommodate tyre wear, which
accounts for about 2% discrepancy, and different makes of tyre (another
1% or thereabouts). Of course if you fit non-standard wheels and/or
tyres, the accuracy could be a lot worse (or better). And tyre
pressures.


My dad had a Bedford CA made in 1961. The diff failed under warranty so the
van went back to the factory. When it came back every gear was a bit lower
and the speedo was wrong. Dad never bothered to complain and I drove the van
like that from '67 to '70.

Bill


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Old June 23rd 09, 01:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius) reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's very
easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am still
within
the law.


I've got an Avometer Model 8 that reads 11% over on AC.....


It's my belief that my doctor's chloresterol meter is way out.
Bill

Is he using an Avo 8 too?

Steve Terry


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Old June 23rd 09, 01:10 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
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In article , Chas Gill wrote:
It is common knowledge amongst owners that my car (a Toyota Prius)
reads
exactly 10% over at all speeds up to the max. I know this and it's
very
easy to just add 10% to the displayed speed knowing that I am still
within
the law.

I've got an Avometer Model 8 that reads 11% over on AC.....


It's my belief that my doctor's chloresterol meter is way out.
Bill

Is he using an Avo 8 too?


That bloke, if he had an AVO, he'd put the croc clips on yer knackers!

Bill


 




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