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Within this post Bill has not stated what Model of Van he drives.
Therefore the statement about a Van being subject to 50mph limit needs
expanding. At one time that rule did apply to all Vans but it was
quite a long time ago that the law was relaxed for Car derived
Vans.These are subject to the same limits as Cars.Larger Vans such the
Transit,Vivaro, Sprinter are still subject to the 50mph limit.
The Ford Transit connect is a strange one, it is quite a small van but
as it was designed as such and there is no car equivalent it too is
subject to the 50 Rule as far as I understand.

The DfT website refers to vans based on the same 'chassis' as a car. Since
no car has had a chassis - Morgans & Lotus 7s apart - for a very long time,
I assume all vans are sunject to a 50 limit.

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On Sat, 20 Jun 2009 11:15:11 +0100, "Adrian" wrote:

Bill Wright wrote:
"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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airsmoothed wrote:
Funnily enough I saw motorcyclist collide with a car on Sunday
afternoon on the M3 near Fleet Services, a minute earlier I'd seen
him playing silly bugger in the manner described above.

This afternoon on the road from Lichfield to Uttoxeter I was
overtaken by a bike. We were doing 50, we were on a seriously blind
bend, and there were double continuous white lines. If someone had
come round the corner I don't know what would have happened.

When I see a Motorcycle ridden stupidly I just think that at least
somebody somewhere may get a Kidney or other bits.

A little while later a white van identical to my work van did much
the same thing, but a car came the other way and he had to dodge
desperately back in behind me. He overtook us about two miles
further on, and blew his horn at us in rage because we were going
too slowly for him. But I think 50 is quite reasonable for a
winding country road.


50 is the legal limit for a van on a single carriageway road. You
should have taken his number and reported him for dangerous driving.


Within this post Bill has not stated what Model of Van he drives.
Therefore the statement about a Van being subject to 50mph limit needs
expanding. At one time that rule did apply to all Vans but it was
quite a long time ago that the law was relaxed for Car derived
Vans.These are subject to the same limits as Cars.Larger Vans such the
Transit,Vivaro, Sprinter are still subject to the 50mph limit.
The Ford Transit connect is a strange one, it is quite a small van but
as it was designed as such and there is no car equivalent it too is
subject to the 50 Rule as far as I understand.

G.harman

He has said other posts that he drives a Mercades van so is subject to the
50mph limit. I thought the Transit Connect was based on the Ford Fusion so
was car derived, I could be wrong about that.
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charles wrote:
The DfT website refers to vans based on the same 'chassis' as a car.
Since no car has had a chassis - Morgans & Lotus 7s apart - for a very
long time, I assume all vans are sunject to a 50 limit.

For chassis substitute base pan.

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Andy Champ wrote:
I think you'll find the general standards of biker's riding is better
than most car drivers. It has to be - to quote that report:

Might be so with *true* bikers - but not so for most of those driving
powered two wheel vehicles. Or perhaps you don't have pizza delivery etc
riders or kids with their first scooter round your way?


John Majors Gov was going to ban L Plate riders from Pizza deliveries,
until they realised pizzerias would then have to pay real money for
qualified
riders, and transplant surgeons would get even less organs to transplant

Victorians only sent kids up chimneys, we send them out on busy roads
to do a professional riding job, unqualified.

Steve Terry

"Adrian" wrote in message
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wrote:
He has said other posts that he drives a Mercades van so is subject to the
50mph limit. I thought the Transit Connect was based on the Ford Fusion so
was car derived, I could be wrong about that.

It's irrelevant what van I was driving. I was doing 50. It's the other
bugger you should be debating about. Incidentally my cousin's wife got
nicked for driving her little van at 56 on an A road.

Bill

On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 10:45:44 +0100, charles
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Interesting, we have often run speed watch checks in close colaboration
with our comminity police officer. He has been waiting round a corner from
us - to really catch those who see us, wave two fingers and put their foot
down.

I've often thought it would be a good idea to have a speed check 50 m
after a speed camera to catch the brake then accelerate idiots.

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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
charles wrote:
The DfT website refers to vans based on the same 'chassis' as a car.
Since no car has had a chassis - Morgans & Lotus 7s apart - for a very
long time, I assume all vans are sunject to a 50 limit.

For chassis substitute base pan.

I know that, but it's the uswe fo the word "chassis" that makes me wonder
how up-to-date the DfT are.

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Adrian wrote:


I've reported drivers of company vehicles when their driving was
extreme,
at least one was fired as I was the third person to complain that day
and they'd had complaints about the same driver previously.

but that isn't quite the same as reporting an unmarked white van to the
police.


true..

You can kill someone and go to jail for 6 months..
If you get fired you will spend 9 months looking for a job and have no
income..

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Tom E wrote:
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0100, "Tom E" wrote:

have all experienced this.

Travelling up the M3 this morning, very busy, me sitting in middle
lane
doing about 80. Two cars in front and then a motorcycle sitting just
to the

But, at the end of the day, the maximum permitted speed limit is still
only 70.


and have you tried doing that when all 3 lanes are at 80.........its
more dangerous than sticking to the limit.

Really? If you are driving in the nearside lane, as I'm sure that you
know you should, how can traffic behind you force you to go faster?

It can't. I just means that you have a constant stream of people pulling
out into lane 2 behind you, meaning the chances of a collision occurring
right next to you is higher than it would otherwise be.

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Then you should do it, and let the people hit each other.

"Harry" wrote in message
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On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:57:26 +0100, "Tom E" wrote:

have all experienced this.

Travelling up the M3 this morning, very busy, me sitting in middle lane
doing about 80. Two cars in front and then a motorcycle sitting just to
the

But, at the end of the day, the maximum permitted speed limit is still
only 70.

True, but if all 3 lanes are doing 80 (and there is a lot of traffic) then
you have reason to doubt your speed tacho.