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Old June 21st 09, 10:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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With three days to go before BBC2 dies forever, I am finally getting
little old ladies coming up to me to give me advice on going Digital.

The most cogent was the 84 year old, who told me she couldn't
understand what all the fuss was about, all she was going to do was to
retune her two new TV sets when the 'digital' came on-line. She
tells me that she has the instruction booklet by her armchair.

Ah! how the times have changed....

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Old June 22nd 09, 02:32 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Jun 21, 10:34*am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Well, for every one who is prepared there are probably two who have said,
Oh, I'll do that tomorrow, and now tomorrow is here they still have not done
it...


Is something important happening?
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Old June 22nd 09, 08:21 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Mizter T" wrote in message
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On Jun 21, 10:34 am, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
Well, for every one who is prepared there are probably two who have said,
Oh, I'll do that tomorrow, and now tomorrow is here they still have not
done
it...


Is something important happening?

Yes,
all the On / ITV Digital boxes and TV's stop working ! (well the ones that
don't cope with 8k carriers anyway)


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Old June 23rd 09, 11:34 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"TheOldFellow" wrote in message
. ..
With three days to go before BBC2 dies forever, I am finally getting
little old ladies coming up to me to give me advice on going Digital.


Seeing as one such lady will be my mum, and I need to explain what's going
on can someone clarify the following for me. (I should explain I've had
freeview where we are for years so haven't been following DSO closely).



I can see two statements for the transmitter she receives TV from:



24th June: BBC2 analogue is switched off. You will need to re-tune your
digital equipment to pick up the available channels.



22nd July: The remaining analogue channels are switched off. You will need
to re-tune your digital equipment again to pick up all available digital
channels.



Does this mean all digital channels (from the reduced selection they'll
ultimately get) will broadcast on the 24th (perhaps at a lower power) or
just BBC2? In which case all she needs to do on the 24th in plug in her new
digibox and forget about the analogue stuff?



Or will it be a big faff of having to deal with some channels on analogue
for a month and some on digital before they're all finally available on
digital?



Cheers


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Old June 23rd 09, 12:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Doehead wrote:

Does this mean all digital channels (from the reduced selection they'll
ultimately get) will broadcast on the 24th (perhaps at a lower power) or
just BBC2? In which case all she needs to do on the 24th in plug in her new
digibox and forget about the analogue stuff?


No, on June 24th at Caldbeck itself the following happens:-

1: BBC 2 analogue will vanish

2: The present low power version of the BBC Mux will vanish.

3: The new high power version of the BBC mux on a new frequency (carrying BBC
1, 2, 3, 4, N24) will appear called PSB 1.

At all of Caldbeck's mainland relays (excluding Whitehaven, that has already
DSO'd in 2007), Steps 1 and 3 will apply.

All digital boxes must be rescanned at this point.

On July 22 at Caldbeck itself the following happens:

1: BBC 1, ITV, C4 and C5 analogue at Caldbeck will vanish

2: The present five low power muxes will vanish.

3: These five muxes will appear (on different frequencies) at high power.

At all of Caldbeck's mainland relays (excluding Whitehaven, that has already
DSO'd in 2007), Step 1 will apply (excl C5), and Mux 2 and B will appear for
the first time, (renamed PSB 2 and 3)

All digital boxes must be rescanned at this point.

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Old June 23rd 09, 01:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Doehead[_2_]
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Doehead wrote:

Does this mean all digital channels (from the reduced selection they'll
ultimately get) will broadcast on the 24th (perhaps at a lower power) or
just BBC2? In which case all she needs to do on the 24th in plug in her
new digibox and forget about the analogue stuff?


No, on June 24th at Caldbeck itself the following happens:-

1: BBC 2 analogue will vanish

2: The present low power version of the BBC Mux will vanish.

3: The new high power version of the BBC mux on a new frequency (carrying
BBC 1, 2, 3, 4, N24) will appear called PSB 1.

At all of Caldbeck's mainland relays (excluding Whitehaven, that has
already DSO'd in 2007), Steps 1 and 3 will apply.

All digital boxes must be rescanned at this point.

On July 22 at Caldbeck itself the following happens:

1: BBC 1, ITV, C4 and C5 analogue at Caldbeck will vanish

2: The present five low power muxes will vanish.

3: These five muxes will appear (on different frequencies) at high power.

At all of Caldbeck's mainland relays (excluding Whitehaven, that has
already DSO'd in 2007), Step 1 will apply (excl C5), and Mux 2 and B will
appear for the first time, (renamed PSB 2 and 3)

All digital boxes must be rescanned at this point.


Excellent description, cheers.

At least it means she can switch over to the digibox straight away and
forget about the analogue stuff, as they only get channels 1-4 there
anyway (Glenluce transmitter). Then a rescan a month later will open up a
bunch of other stuff too.


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Old June 23rd 09, 01:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Doehead wrote:

Excellent description, cheers.

At least it means she can switch over to the digibox straight away and
forget about the analogue stuff, as they only get channels 1-4 there
anyway (Glenluce transmitter). Then a rescan a month later will open up a
bunch of other stuff too.


No no no ! The only way to receive BBC 1, ITV 1 and C4 will be via analogue
until July 22nd. From June 24th all she will be able to receive on her
Digital box will be:-

BBC 1, BBC 2, BBC 3, BBC 4, BBC News Ch, CBBC and CBeebies


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Old June 23rd 09, 02:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Mark Carver wrote:
Doehead wrote:

Excellent description, cheers.

At least it means she can switch over to the digibox straight away and
forget about the analogue stuff, as they only get channels 1-4 there
anyway (Glenluce transmitter). Then a rescan a month later will open
up a bunch of other stuff too.


No no no ! The only way to receive BBC 1, ITV 1 and C4 will be via
analogue until July 22nd.


CORRECTION: Make that only ITV 1 and C4. I'm getting meself confused now !


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