BBC cripple HD offering to make it fit on Freeview

I have a very vague recollection as a young child of being driven into
somewhere like London, and the, as I only much later realised, rather
snobby friends in the front of the car making comments to the effect:
"There's a TV aerial, and there, another one! People are obviously
doing very nicely for themselves around here!"

I wonder if the same thing ever happened with satellite dishes!
Somehow I doubt it, we seem to be much more mixed up and thrown
together now.

BTW, agree with everything you've been saying here about not bothering
with HD on Freeview.

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 17:37:50 +0100, "Paul D.Smith"
wrote:

I do rather wonder how people reacted when Band I/III aerials started
appearing on buildings because personally I find a well sited $ky size dish
quite unobtrusive and certainly no worse than a wide band, high gain TV
antenna. But I suppose you do get a little more "play" as to where to site
TV aerials.

Paul DS

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In article , tim.....
scribeth thus

"Paul D.Smith" wrote in message
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In order to watch HD, you need an HD TV (thus outlay!). The additional
cost of an HD satellite system is not much on top.

So let's face facts, Freeview is fine for SD but HD can stay on satellite.
Let's get Freeview with SD, some decent bitrates and 5.1 sound and
recognise that by the time HD takes off, satellite systems will be being
given away with a gallon of petrol ;-).

But no-one will have dis-invented conservation areas and listed buildings.
In fact, I suggest that there will be more of them!

tim



Can anyone answer me this.

Why is a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a satellite dish treated
any differently to a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a TV
aerial?..
--
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tony sayer wrote:

Can anyone answer me this.

Why is a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a satellite dish treated
any differently to a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a TV
aerial?..

I'd love to know the answer to that too. Also, you actually have to point out
Sky/Mini dishes to foreign visitors, because they're not used to seeing
anything that small ! No one in *any* other country has a problem with
dishes, it's purely a UK thing. I'm sure that the Beeb's continued refusal to
embrace satellite as a 100% bona-fide delivery system is indicative of that
culture. We need to shake it off PDQ IMHO.

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In article , Mark Carver
scribeth thus
tony sayer wrote:

Can anyone answer me this.

Why is a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a satellite dish treated
any differently to a lump of metal and plastic shaped into a TV
aerial?..

I'd love to know the answer to that too. Also, you actually have to point out
Sky/Mini dishes to foreign visitors, because they're not used to seeing
anything that small ! No one in *any* other country has a problem with
dishes, it's purely a UK thing. I'm sure that the Beeb's continued refusal to
embrace satellite as a 100% bona-fide delivery system is indicative of that
culture. We need to shake it off PDQ IMHO.


Class system through and through .. only India has a better one;!...
--
Tony Sayer

Andrew wrote:

I am glad you aren't making the decisions then. I would much rather
have 2 or 3 times as many HD channels showing at a decent bitrate than
a couple of 1080P that isn't necessary and that not everyone can see.

My TV won't show _any_ HD channels. I'll replace it when it dies.

The only HD stuff I watch is on here, where I have a full-HD capable
monitor (actually 1920x1200).

And there aren't enough programs _worth_watching_ on all the channels
put together. Why broadcasting a few more copies of the same rubbish
would change that is beyond me. I'd rather have fewer, better channels.
Tonight, for example, there is _nothing_ I want to watch on any of the
5 standard channels except the news. A few decent repeats - but I've
seen them already.

OTOH I do have about 5 hours of wish-it-had-a-higher-bitrate iPlayer to
watch...

Andy

In article , Tony sayer wrote:
I'd love to know the answer to that too. Also, you actually have to point out
Sky/Mini dishes to foreign visitors, because they're not used to seeing
anything that small ! No one in *any* other country has a problem with
dishes, it's purely a UK thing. I'm sure that the Beeb's continued refusal to
embrace satellite as a 100% bona-fide delivery system is indicative of that
culture. We need to shake it off PDQ IMHO.


Class system through and through .. only India has a better one;!...

And weren't they first with satellite television?

Rod.
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message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Tony sayer wrote:
I'd love to know the answer to that too. Also, you actually have to
point out
Sky/Mini dishes to foreign visitors, because they're not used to seeing
anything that small ! No one in *any* other country has a problem with
dishes, it's purely a UK thing. I'm sure that the Beeb's continued
refusal to
embrace satellite as a 100% bona-fide delivery system is indicative of
that
culture. We need to shake it off PDQ IMHO.


Class system through and through .. only India has a better one;!...

And weren't they first with satellite television?


IIRC using UHF transponders?

On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:38:00 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

"There's a TV aerial, and there, another one! People are obviously
doing very nicely for themselves around here!"

I wonder if the same thing ever happened with satellite dishes!
Somehow I doubt it,

Oh it did, but there was a little bit tagged onto the end of that
quote "on benefits".

It was very noticable how the dishes first sprouted on the poorer
estates.

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Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.net...
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:38:00 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

"There's a TV aerial, and there, another one! People are obviously
doing very nicely for themselves around here!"

I wonder if the same thing ever happened with satellite dishes!
Somehow I doubt it,

Oh it did, but there was a little bit tagged onto the end of that
quote "on benefits".

It was very noticable how the dishes first sprouted on the poorer
estates.

"Dad, what's the little box on the end of a satellite dish called?"

"Son, that's a council house"

I'll get my coat

tim

In article , tim.....
scribeth thus

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.net...
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 19:38:00 +0100, Java Jive wrote:

"There's a TV aerial, and there, another one! People are obviously
doing very nicely for themselves around here!"

I wonder if the same thing ever happened with satellite dishes!
Somehow I doubt it,

Oh it did, but there was a little bit tagged onto the end of that
quote "on benefits".

It was very noticable how the dishes first sprouted on the poorer
estates.

"Dad, what's the little box on the end of a satellite dish called?"

"Son, that's a council house"

I'll get my coat

tim




'Twas ever thus thought of...

Course Thatcher did a lot more social levelling than any socialist mob
ever did by letting tenants buy their own properties)..
--
Tony Sayer