LED TV

"Alan" wrote in message
...
In message , tony sayer
wrote

But Joe public has bought it on himself by wanting any and everything
for as cheap as possible and the best deal around so something has to
suffer...


But the companies selling at top price are no better! And if you take the
top end Hi-Fi market as an example then the technical advice is likely to
be complete B******t.
Alan


You've seen Saxondale (played by Steve Coogan)
in Sevenoaks Sound & Vision, Watford. then? ;-)

Steve Terry

Tom E wrote:

there is never a good time............sorta like computers.

The only thing I would suggest is get one with FOXSAT built in for the
current and future HD transmissions.



I'd like to get one with built-in DVB-T2, so it isn't obsolete when the
new muxes get rolled out this Autumn. (If it can't have that it may as
well have no digital decoder at all because I will need an external box)

AFAIK no-one is making any yet.

Andy

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, "Angela" wrote:

We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture
on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just
incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an
equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided
in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to
take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in
the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you
can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it?


Does it really matter if it's an inch thinner? If flat-screen
technology hadn't come along, you'd be happily and proudly showing off
a very bulky large-screen CRT model :-)

Any other reasons you prefer to pay more than for a LCD?

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

What the guarantee "Never knowingly undersold"? Which means they'll
price-match in the local area?

Andy

In article ,
Andy Champ wrote:
What the guarantee "Never knowingly undersold"? Which means they'll
price-match in the local area?

They will - but like for like from another retailer. Not from a mail order
company.

--
*When you've seen one shopping centre you've seen a mall*

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Angela wrote:
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the picture
on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just
incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an
equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best avoided
in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to
take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in
the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you
can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it?



Having recently done some research for a purchase, my
impression was the the LED technology isn't yet as
good as the better LCD panels, though I don't know if
the difference is enough to bother any but the
pickiest. "Deeper blacks" seemed to be the main
benefit, but many conventional LCDs now perform very
well in that area.

To me, the only practical reason for choosing a thin
TV at such a premium would be if you were mounting it
on a wall. Then it makes perfect sense. The Samsungs
come with some nice HD art pictures in the Content
Library which would look very good on a thin,
wall-mounted TV. Like having the National Gallery in
your living room!

Most people would want to watch some moving pictures,
though, and most AV set-ups have (several) other boxes
attached. This tends to spoil the minimalist look,
though I suppose the TV would cover the large holes
you'd need to punch in the wall to hide the cables.

Someone else has pointed out that many users end up
putting their flat TVs in a corner, with little or no
gain in space. This is often necessary to increase the
viewing distance needed for larger panels.

Laurence Payne wrote:
On Sat, 30 May 2009 12:21:33 +0100, "Dr Zoidberg"
wrote:

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".
It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need
it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some
others.

And you can always look for a competitor to price match against.

JL have been known to play a game where they get the manufacturer to
put a label on with a slightly different model number. Then they can
claim no-one else stocks QUITE the same item. They also make great
play of their guarantee. As no-one else sells QUITE the same package,
they can wriggle out of price-matching.

Yes very true,.. standard in the industry, as is paying for warranties.
a little bit like banks paying for their own rating. The system
relies on all MFR not producing sh1te, if they do it will be bust. Noone
really does testing anymore or cares about lifetime.

I'm afraid they sell into the market which thinks paying more gets you
something better. That just ain't true with consumer toys these days.

Yep you have no idea what you are getting, my £1500 Loewe 32" had the
best picture review but my partner was no longer will to put up with the
problems (darkness in one corner and audio buzzing when hot) after it
was 5 years old. I could have claimed on the SOG but it offers no real
protection either, I would have gotten a £100 back maybe. And likely
the on-line retailer would have told me to FO, since they asked me to
agree to pay for the return costs (at the time of sale) because the MFRs
guarantee didn't cover my postcode. They obviously didn't think the SOG
applied to them.

--
Tony

Jim wrote:
Angela wrote:
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the
picture on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the
thinness is just incredible. It is however new technology and does
cost a bit more than an equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early
days with LED and best avoided in case it turns out to be
problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis to take advantage of
their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in the past), but
I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you can
foresee any problems and whether we should go for it?


Having recently done some research for a purchase, my impression was the
the LED technology isn't yet as good as the better LCD panels, though I
don't know if the difference is enough to bother any but the pickiest.
"Deeper blacks" seemed to be the main benefit, but many conventional
LCDs now perform very well in that area.

To me, the only practical reason for choosing a thin TV at such a
premium would be if you were mounting it on a wall. Then it makes
perfect sense. The Samsungs come with some nice HD art pictures in the
Content Library which would look very good on a thin, wall-mounted TV.
Like having the National Gallery in your living room!

Most people would want to watch some moving pictures, though, and most
AV set-ups have (several) other boxes attached. This tends to spoil the
minimalist look, though I suppose the TV would cover the large holes
you'd need to punch in the wall to hide the cables.

Someone else has pointed out that many users end up putting their flat
TVs in a corner, with little or no gain in space. This is often
necessary to increase the viewing distance needed for larger panels.


Most of the picture quality is in the processing which is the same for
all pixelated TVs. Scaling and deinterlacing is very difficult to do,
but as processing speeds increase (for video processors) and scalers are
sold in bigger volumes the picture quality will improve. A few years
ago you could pay £3000 for a really good scaler, it never really caught on.

The current raft of LCDs TVs are quite good, but I havn't seen the
Samsung LED backlite one. I bought a 40" Sony Bravia with 33,000:1
contrast ratio, its processing is pretty good but does have problems
sometimes, although alot of the time its just that broadcast problems
are more prevalent now with the bigger screen that I wanted to get the
benefit from Blu ray. Unfortunately SD and HD are somewhat mutually
exclusive in requirements. Actually one of the reasons HD looks so good
is because it doesn't need so much scaling, I can't say I really notice
any difference when immersed in a movie anyway.

--
Tony

It was explained to me the other day that the new Samsungs only
have LED illumination around the edges at present, not one per
pixel. Either way I would say the picture quality is such that,
for the first time since a CRT, I might just give one house
room - if I could afford it!

Having said that, have you seen the price of the (special) wall
bracket???? I have been told pushing £500!!!!!!!



--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com

Woody wrote:
It was explained to me the other day that the new Samsungs only
have LED illumination around the edges at present, not one per
pixel. Either way I would say the picture quality is such that,
for the first time since a CRT, I might just give one house
room - if I could afford it!

Having said that, have you seen the price of the (special) wall
bracket???? I have been told pushing £500!!!!!!!

It won't be long before CPC start selling suitable brackets for it for about
25 quid.

--
Mark
Please replace invalid and invalid with gmx and net to reply.

www.paras.org.uk

In message , Woody
wrote
It was explained to me the other day that the new Samsungs only
have LED illumination around the edges at present, not one per
pixel. Either way I would say the picture quality is such that,
for the first time since a CRT, I might just give one house
room - if I could afford it!

Having said that, have you seen the price of the (special) wall
bracket???? I have been told pushing £500!!!!!!!


Is this the one with the motor drive for the tilt that you can control
via the remote? Most sensible people would buy a bracket for under £20
and tilt it by hand once- and then leave it.

--
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk