LED TV

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Laurence Payne wrote:

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need
it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some
others.

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"Alan" wrote in message
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The only thing I would suggest is get one with FOXSAT built in for the
current and future HD transmissions.


Foxsat? Don't you mean Freesat? But why pay an extra premium for a
facility that can be easily added with an external box?

Freesat has little HD content (one part time BBC channel and bugger all
from ITV). A Sky box or a future Freeview box will/may provide better HD
coverage.

As for John Lewis's 5 year cover - it's not free, it's built into the
higher selling price!


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I did mean Freesat and the cup final is in HD today :-) which I shall be
enjoying.

HD has little content at the moment but things change. Also what is there at
this time is good quality....well for me anyway.

Someone just might not want that external box and it's good to know they can
be purchased as a combined unit.....IMHO.

"R. Mark Clayton" wrote:

"Angela" wrote in message
om...
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the
picture
on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just
incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than an
equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best
avoided
in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis
to
take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in
the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether you
can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it?



I have an LED clock bought in 1978. There is a loose contact somewhere, but
all the LED segments still work. I have a Casio pocket TV bought in the
90's, which has one red pixel hard on (fine for everything except cricker
replays at the match).

LCD's are actually a more recent technology and early LCD panels used to
fade and leak internally, however post 1985 they have been much better.

OLED's are new and MTBF and burn out are a little unknown.

Plasma panels fade to 50% brightness after about ten years use.

Generally speaking LED's are very reliable with MTBF's at 100k hours plus.
OTOH with six million in a screen the standard deviation from this could be
significant.

IMHO there is no reason not to buy an LED panels and the results are better.

You can probably get a cheaper result buying from Richer Sounds and buying
their add on five guarantee backed by Domestic and General.

OMG too many LED LCD OTOH IMHO

:O))


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On Sat, 30 May 2009 09:19:10 +0100, Angela wrote:

We need a new TV as ours has finally died.

Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners
will start to become available.

"Laurence Payne" wrote in message ...

Does it really matter if it's an inch thinner?

I'm inclined to agree.
The difference between a TV that's two feet deep and three or four inches is significant and can make a big difference to your lounge [1] but going from 4 inches to 2 is pretty much irrelevant past the initial "ooh , that's thin" moment.

[1] though a lot of people have flat panel TVs on a stand in the corner where it takes up as much room as a CRT


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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you need
it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike some
others.


And you can always look for a competitor to price match against.
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Alex

"I laugh in the face of danger , then I hide until it goes away"

Having said that, I've had nothing but good service from John Lewis as a
company.

On the display front, I'd imagine the danger area besides brightness
deviation is the interconnections on the led elements myself.

Brian

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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote in message
news

"Angela" wrote in message
om...
We need a new TV as ours has finally died. Having looked around the
picture
on the new Samsung LED is certainly impressive and the thinness is just
incredible. It is however new technology and does cost a bit more than
an
equivalent size LCD. Do you think it's early days with LED and best
avoided
in case it turns out to be problematic? We intend to buy from John Lewis
to
take advantage of their free 5 year guarantee (which has proven useful in
the past), but I would be interested to hear from others as to whether
you
can foresee any problems and whether we should go for it?



I have an LED clock bought in 1978. There is a loose contact somewhere,
but all the LED segments still work. I have a Casio pocket TV bought in
the 90's, which has one red pixel hard on (fine for everything except
cricker replays at the match).

LCD's are actually a more recent technology and early LCD panels used to
fade and leak internally, however post 1985 they have been much better.

OLED's are new and MTBF and burn out are a little unknown.

Plasma panels fade to 50% brightness after about ten years use.

Generally speaking LED's are very reliable with MTBF's at 100k hours plus.
OTOH with six million in a screen the standard deviation from this could
be significant.

IMHO there is no reason not to buy an LED panels and the results are
better.

You can probably get a cheaper result buying from Richer Sounds and buying
their add on five guarantee backed by Domestic and General.

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Dr Zoidberg wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ...
In article ,
Laurence Payne wrote:

I agree with the previous poster, it shouldn't be difficult to find a
better deal than John Lewis. That guarantee certainly isn't "free".

It may still be a good deal when you figure in free delivery - if you
need it. And the JL extended warranty is pretty comprehensive unlike
some others.


And you can always look for a competitor to price match against.

IIRC, they won't price match against mail order only places, though. Not
surprising given their overheads.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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J G Miller wrote:

: Best to wait until the end of the year when TV with DVB-t2 tuners
: will start to become available.

On what possible logic????? They will be expensive to start with and many
people do NOT use the built-in Freeview tuner at all (with Sky, Virgin etc.)

The dog from that film you saw wrote:
: the only problem i've heard is, at this moment in time they dont have as
: many leds as pixels.
: this means that when a part of the picture - example a star on a black sky,
: is illuminated, there will be a glow around it where the led's light is
: coming through.

Yes - I would also be interested to learn how many (LCD) pixels each
backlight LED illuminates.

I did see the Samsung in question a shop and it did look most impressive!