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Old May 13th 09, 10:59 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Paul D.Smith wrote:
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Paul D.Smith wrote:

Did you get my direct e-mail? Set up a user on the WM-202 anyway.
Possibly your guest account is disabled (a default on some Windows
set ups).


Yes I did - thanks, Paul. Sorry for the delay in replying but I spent rather
too long yesterday reconfiguring, uninstalling and reinstalling my network -
so far with no success :-( .

At the moment I'm suffering from too many variables! I haven't had a
wireless router before, so maybe there's a problem there. But the router
says it sees the Roberts OK, and, as the internet radio works, the router's
firewall can't be to blame (I think!). So perhaps it's the ZoneAlarm
firewall on the computer(s). But (a) I've set 'trusted zone' to 'no
firewall', and that doesn't work, and (b) surely the Roberts should see the
network name even if it's prevented from looking at folders.

I'm beginning to understand how appallingly difficult Microsoft makes it to
set up a network under XP. Despite the cheerful Wizard taking me through it,
some settings don't 'stick'; that seems to be because I didn't set them as
Administrator - even though I'm the only user. So far as I can see, the only
way to log on as the genuine Administrator is in safe mode (Microsoft's
website telling you to press Ctrl-Alt-Del at the 'Welcome' screen is lying
:-( ).

So I'm still trying. At the moment, after uninstallation and reinstallation
of the network, even the computers can't see each other, so I may settle for
just returning to the status quo ante, with no Roberts access. But I've
discovered that you were right in thinking that the 'Guest' account was
disabled, so perhaps that's a way forward when everything else is up and
running again.

Thanks very much for your suggestions.

André Coutanche


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Old May 13th 09, 11:56 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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....snip...

At the moment I'm suffering from too many variables! I haven't had a
wireless router before, so maybe there's a problem there. But the router
says it sees the Roberts OK, and, as the internet radio works, the
router's firewall can't be to blame (I think!). So perhaps it's the
ZoneAlarm firewall on the computer(s). But (a) I've set 'trusted zone' to
'no firewall', and that doesn't work, and (b) surely the Roberts should
see the network name even if it's prevented from looking at folders.


If the Roberts can see the internet, your router is almost certainly fine.

You can try the following, in order to remove ZoneAlarm from the equation...

1. Disconnect the ADSL cable from your router
2. Right-click on the ZoneAlarm icon and then close ZoneAlarm. You'll
probably get an "are you sure?" type warning. Provided you're disconnected
from the Internet, you'll be fine. Just remember to restart ZoneAlarm (or
reboot) before plugging the ADSL back in.


I'm beginning to understand how appallingly difficult Microsoft makes it
to set up a network under XP. Despite the cheerful Wizard taking me
through it, some settings don't 'stick'; that seems to be because I didn't
set them as Administrator - even though I'm the only user. So far as I can
see, the only way to log on as the genuine Administrator is in safe mode
(Microsoft's website telling you to press Ctrl-Alt-Del at the 'Welcome'
screen is lying :-( ).


I have to admit that I have only one user name on my Windows PCs, and I'm
also configured as an administrator.

Windows networking is also a pain in the ****. If you are familiar with how
it worked before, and are using XPPro, you can disable the irritating
wizards and do it the "old way". XPHome is a little more tricky but it's
not too bad once you get the hang of it.

I've found that if you do the following, this often works...

1. Get the Windows PX on the network (if you can surf, you're up!).

2. Create your "music" directory (let's say "c:\music") and upload files
etc.

3. Logon as an administrator

4. From Windows Explorer (now hidden under accessories if I remember
correctly)

5. Navigate to "c:\music".

6. Right click (?) to get the properties and then to the Sharing" tab.

7. Create a share (name it something like "music") and set "anyone can read"

8. Now press "OK". This may now take sometime to churn through the
directory setting the correct permissions.

9. Now try and see your shares from the WM-202 (assuming that the guess
account is enabled or you configured your usual login account).

I occasionally have to remove and then recreate a share as Windows sometimes
seems to forget the sharing permissions!


So I'm still trying. At the moment, after uninstallation and
reinstallation of the network, even the computers can't see each other, so
I may settle for just returning to the status quo ante, with no Roberts
access. But I've discovered that you were right in thinking that the
'Guest' account was disabled, so perhaps that's a way forward when
everything else is up and running again.


Good luck,
Paul DS


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Old May 13th 09, 12:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On May 13, 10:56*am, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:
snip snip
5. Navigate to "c:\music".

6. Right click (?) to get the properties and then to the Sharing" tab.

7. Create a share (name it something like "music") and set "anyone can read"

8. Now press "OK". *This may now take sometime to churn through the
directory setting the correct permissions.

9. Now try and see your shares from the WM-202 (assuming that the guess
account is enabled or you configured your usual login account).

I occasionally have to remove and then recreate a share as Windows sometimes
seems to forget the sharing permissions!

Good luck,
Paul DS


With my Reciva based Logik radio at least I have to configure the
music directory on the XP machine such that the radio can write to the
XP directory. The radio creates a file on the PC ( essentially a
database of the music it has found I suspect) and it won't be able to
do this without write access and so music streaming won't work. I
suspect the Roberts operates the same way.
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Old May 13th 09, 01:51 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith[_2_]
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....snip...

With my Reciva based Logik radio at least I have to configure the
music directory on the XP machine such that the radio can write to the
XP directory. The radio creates a file on the PC ( essentially a
database of the music it has found I suspect) and it won't be able to
do this without write access and so music streaming won't work. I
suspect the Roberts operates the same way.


Interesting. That might well trip Andre up because I'll bet the Windows
guest accound is "read-only".

however I've never noticed any files on my NAS whilst using the WM-202. I
might change the access rights to read-only and see what happens if I get a
moment.

Paul DS

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Old May 13th 09, 02:04 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On May 13, 12:51*pm, "Paul D.Smith" wrote:

however I've never noticed any files on my NAS whilst using the WM-202. *I
might change the access rights to read-only and see what happens if I get a
moment.

Paul DS


Maybe the Frontier Silicon devices operate differently to Reciva in
this respect?, a quick test to try anyway! I'm 100% sure the PC file
was created by the Logik - the filename started 'Reciva'

 




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