Fancy Mains Cables

charles wrote:
In article ,
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
I was thinking of getting some new gear, as the current cycle of TV
improvements has just about stabilised, so in April I bought a copy
of What Hi-Fi Sound & Vision magazine.

It might have been April the first as it contained an article about
mains leads costing scores if not hundreds of pounds: -

http://www.whathifi.com/Reviews/Acce...Reviews/Price/

for example "Levels of detail, dynamics and clarity of sound are
improved upon tenfold." [by one particular lead at £232].

On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they
cost a few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely
gullible* to fall for this kind of guff!

I've just cancelled my subscription to BBC Music Magazine (after 17
yeas) when it ssid you should spend at least 25% of your hi-fi budget
on leads.

The James Randi Educational Foundation two or three years ago offered a
million dollar prize to anyone who could prove that expensive speaker leads
improved the sound quality. As far as I'm aware, it was never won.

On Sat, 9 May 2009 16:21:12 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Alan
writes
In message , R. Mark Clayton
wrote


On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!


It takes some bollox written about power cables to make most people
realise that ALL the reviews in these magazines are of the same
standard. Reviews with the words "Hi-Fi" are based on the snake oil
claims made by manufactures or sellers or are written by journalists
with no technical knowledge and who far from the flush of youth with
impaired hearing of some sort. (compared to the hearing of a teenager).

What I cannot understand is how those who make absolutely outrageous
claims for their products are not done by Trading Standards. And I'm
sure that some action could also be taken against those who give
'glowing' reviews to these devices.

If you read the drivel that RusS Andrews writes in support of his
mains cable etc they are all couched in terms "In our opinion this
solid gold oxygen free optical cable works wonders and ****s miracles"
- It's an opinion, he tends not to guarantee such things - I strongly
doubt there is much chance of a refund from him.

I do remember that he was summonsed by, I think, trading standards
recently for making a claim that could not be substantiated - and
lost!

"Ian Jackson" wrote in message
news
In message , Alan
writes
In message , R. Mark Clayton
wrote


On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost
a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!


It takes some bollox written about power cables to make most people
realise that ALL the reviews in these magazines are of the same standard.
Reviews with the words "Hi-Fi" are based on the snake oil claims made by
manufactures or sellers or are written by journalists with no technical
knowledge and who far from the flush of youth with impaired hearing of
some sort. (compared to the hearing of a teenager).

What I cannot understand is how those who make absolutely outrageous
claims for their products are not done by Trading Standards. And I'm sure
that some action could also be taken against those who give 'glowing'
reviews to these devices.
--
Ian

The problem here is that all this stuff was written by the reviewer!

It might have been April the first as it contained an article about
mains leads costing scores if not hundreds of pounds: -

Ah, I well remember the famous TED (Tired Electron Distortion) article in a
well known, yellow-covered, HiFi magazine decades ago Sales of D-cells
went through the roof. Sadly, when the buff where told it was just a hoax
there was a backlash of people that really could hear the improvement.
TWBEM.

some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely
gullible* to fall for this kind of guff!

Not just HiFi buffs. Try this for size:

http://www.theabcd.com/

Mostly for musicians/producers/engineers but a few hifi related bits in it.
I have it, tested myself and it confirmed my thoughts. But then I'm biased.
My father was heavily involved in the hifi/audio/recording industry

Al.

In article , charles
scribeth thus
In article ,
R. Mark Clayton wrote:
I was thinking of getting some new gear, as the current cycle of TV
improvements has just about stabilised, so in April I bought a copy of What
Hi-Fi Sound & Vision magazine.

It might have been April the first as it contained an article about mains
leads costing scores if not hundreds of pounds: -

http://www.whathifi.com/Reviews/Acce...ains-products-
Reviews/Price/

for example "Levels of detail, dynamics and clarity of sound are improved
upon tenfold." [by one particular lead at £232].

On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!

I've just cancelled my subscription to BBC Music Magazine (after 17 yeas)
when it ssid you should spend at least 25% of your hi-fi budget on leads.


Ever seen exotic cables on Krone frames in broadcast racks room's?.


No?, neither have I !...
--
Tony Sayer

In article , Peter Duncanson
scribeth thus
On Sat, 9 May 2009 16:21:12 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Alan
writes
In message , R. Mark Clayton
wrote


On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!


It takes some bollox written about power cables to make most people
realise that ALL the reviews in these magazines are of the same
standard. Reviews with the words "Hi-Fi" are based on the snake oil
claims made by manufactures or sellers or are written by journalists
with no technical knowledge and who far from the flush of youth with
impaired hearing of some sort. (compared to the hearing of a teenager).

What I cannot understand is how those who make absolutely outrageous
claims for their products are not done by Trading Standards. And I'm
sure that some action could also be taken against those who give
'glowing' reviews to these devices.

Will Trading Standards act in the absence of complaints from
dissatisfied customers?

Russ Andrews is yer man for this kind of crap, the advertising standards
authority had a go at him somewhile ago..

Ever heard of speaker cable pylons?..
--
Tony Sayer

In article , R. Mark Clayton
scribeth thus
I was thinking of getting some new gear, as the current cycle of TV
improvements has just about stabilised, so in April I bought a copy of What
Hi-Fi Sound & Vision magazine.

It might have been April the first as it contained an article about mains
leads costing scores if not hundreds of pounds: -

http://www.whathifi.com/Reviews/Acce...ains-products-
Reviews/Price/

for example "Levels of detail, dynamics and clarity of sound are improved
upon tenfold." [by one particular lead at £232].

On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!


Skinflint!..

What you need is a balanced mains tranny, around 2 and a half grand to
you guv;!..


Might have to copy 'n paste these..


http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...currency=GBP&p
f_id=1190&customer_id=PAA0959052309572THFCSOVZTKUS COFZ


Then a couple of power leads the two meter long ones a snip at £6000 yes
over Six grand each;!!!!


http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...currency=GBP&p
f_id=1549&customer_id=PAA0959052309572THFCSOVZTKUS COFZ

--
Tony Sayer

Where have you been!
Russ Andrews is a standing joke in uk.tech.*

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%

On Sat, 9 May 2009 19:38:11 +0100, tony sayer wrote:

In article , Peter Duncanson
scribeth thus
On Sat, 9 May 2009 16:21:12 +0100, Ian Jackson
wrote:

In message , Alan
writes
In message , R. Mark Clayton
wrote


On three of them you could actually identify the MK plugtop (OK they cost a
few pence more), but some Hi_fi buffs must be extremely gullible* to fall
for this kind of guff!


It takes some bollox written about power cables to make most people
realise that ALL the reviews in these magazines are of the same
standard. Reviews with the words "Hi-Fi" are based on the snake oil
claims made by manufactures or sellers or are written by journalists
with no technical knowledge and who far from the flush of youth with
impaired hearing of some sort. (compared to the hearing of a teenager).

What I cannot understand is how those who make absolutely outrageous
claims for their products are not done by Trading Standards. And I'm
sure that some action could also be taken against those who give
'glowing' reviews to these devices.

Will Trading Standards act in the absence of complaints from
dissatisfied customers?

Russ Andrews is yer man for this kind of crap, the advertising standards
authority had a go at him somewhile ago..

Ever heard of speaker cable pylons?..

No. And if they are what they sound like I don't want anything to do
with them. Can they be used for curing warts, bad eyesite and loss of
libido?

"Graham." wrote in message
...

Where have you been!
Russ Andrews is a standing joke in uk.tech.*

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%




He ain't knwon as 'rip-off Russ' for nuffink.


--
Woody

harrogate three at ntlworld dot com