ABC O&O stations running two 720p sub-channels

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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CLicker wrote:

SSDL discs (AKA DVD9s)

Breaking & Entering (2006) 2:00
5,772,772 K bytes or 47,290,548,224 bits or 6,568,131 bps

And is the 5.772 GB total the *movie only* data, or the total
of
*ALL* of the data (movie + commentary + alternate endings +
menus,
etc) ?? If the latter, then your math is terribly flawed. If
the
former, your source?

[For example, if only 30,000,000,000 bits were of the movie
and the
rest was menus, "making of" & other shorts, etc., the transfer
rate
of the movie would only be 30,000,000,000/(120*60) or 4.17
Mbps.]

So, from where are you getting numbers, and are they movie
only or
disc total?

In each example, I chose DVDs which had separate VTS sets for
the main movie, any other features were in their own VTS sets.
Anyone with any of these discs can verify that. To ascertain
that I had chosen correctly, I also played the first and last
VTS of each set to see that the company logo ran first and that
credits ran last. I then added up the 1 Gig segments (displayed
in KB by Win Explorer) plus the final less-than-one-gig segment,
multiplied that total by 1024 and again by 8, then divided by
the playing time, as reported on IMDB and verified by playback
in VLC, after converting to seconds. I noted the one exception,
where my copy of "The Outsiders" is longer than IMDB's time,
because some cast members and Coppola give opening interviews.

BTW, VLC playback will also report the video bit rate, it was
easy to see that it ran as high as 9.5 and as low as 4.5 in a
brief playback from VTS_x_02. Also, VideoReDo shows that the
VTS header in most of these reports a video rates in excess of 9
mbps and audio rates of 192 K or higher.

I appreciate your cautionary arithmetic example but I chose to
exclude anything that was not VTS_x_01 or higher in the movie
only segment. Once again, I specified which DVD titles I used,
the VTS size, and the play time so that anyone could verify my
method.

I'm far from a math wizard, but I'm excellent at arithmetic;-0)

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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Winfield wrote:

All of my DVD players (4) can show the bit-rate as the movie
plays.

Gee, none of my three do - including a Panasonic and a Sony.
The
make/models of your players are?

I've mentioned VLC player in this thread a few times as one PC
program which displays video and audio bit rates dynamically -
no average, sadly. I no longer have a stand alone DVD player,
as none to date, including an OPPO, has proven as convenient,
upscalable, nor as all encompassing as software players.

MPC player, which does not display bit rates, remains preferred
here, though VLC offers better audio controls.

I'm pretty sure I mentioned in past posts VLC's support of my
a/v bitrate calculations.

"CLicker" wrote

I no longer have a stand alone DVD player,
as none to date, including an OPPO, has proven as convenient, upscalable,
nor as all encompassing as software players.

I guess you're not talking about HD players,,,,,,, but do I wish I could say
the same as you about Powerdvd for HD material. More continued in a new
thread.

UCLAN wrote:
Winfield wrote:

All of my DVD players (4) can show the bit-rate as the movie plays.

Gee, none of my three do - including a Panasonic and a Sony. The
make/models of your players are?

Pioneer DV-563A
JVC XV-NP10
Philips DVP 5140
Panasonic DVD-S35

Are you sure you haven't missed a display button / menu option on your
own players, UCLAN? This seems a bit weird.

Please note 3 of my players show a dynamic bit-rate change -- NOT an
average reading. The Panasonic can show both.

winfield

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
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UCLAN wrote:

Winfield wrote:

All of my DVD players (4) can show the bit-rate as the movie plays.

Gee, none of my three do - including a Panasonic and a Sony. The
make/models of your players are?

I have a $35 Magnavox that does, fer Christ's sake.

And this is supposed to mean what?

Chip

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:

I have a $35 Magnavox that does, fer Christ's sake.

And this is supposed to mean what?

Chip

That I have a $35 Magnavox that does.

What were you expecting it to mean, Chip?

How's that re-defining of HDTV coming along?


You are somehow superior because you have a cheap dvd player
that shows bitrate and someone else doesn't have one? It just
shows what a small person you are. And BTW, you are the one
trying to redefine HDTV (sic), not me.

Chip

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"UCLAN" wrote in message
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Andy from Dover wrote:

My local ABC affiliate (KGTV-DT, San Diego) is NOT an ABC O&O, thank God!
It regularly transmits 14-14.5 Mbps on its HD channel. 8.5 Mbps? Too ****
soft, IMO. That's worse than Starz "HD."

Except that if you want to watch KGTV over the air, you need to be within 50
feet of the transmitter.

"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:


Where did you read anywhere that I said I was superior because I have a
cheap DVD player that shows bitrate and someone else doesn't have one?

Simple, from reading your moronic posts over the years.
You are rather easy to figure out.

Chip

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"Elmo P. Shagnasty" wrote:
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wrote:

Where did you read anywhere that I said I was superior because I have
a cheap DVD player that shows bitrate and someone else doesn't have
one?

Simple, from reading your moronic posts over the years.

So in other words, I never said that.

Thanks for pointing out that you just make things up out of thin air.

You really aren't that hard to figure out. Really.

Chip

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ASCII wrote:

My local ABC affiliate (KGTV-DT, San Diego) is NOT an ABC O&O, thank God!
It regularly transmits 14-14.5 Mbps on its HD channel. 8.5 Mbps? Too ****
soft, IMO. That's worse than Starz "HD."

Except that if you want to watch KGTV over the air, you need to be within 50
feet of the transmitter.

I get KGTV 10 OTA on my rabbit ears in North Park, quite a bit more than
50 feet from their stick on Soledad, and with the 1080i as indicated I'm
able to plainly see the crow's feet on the aging LeBeau, don't get me
started on Himberly.

Uh...KGTV-DT broadcasts in 720p.