Rethinking Blu-ray

"Kalarama" wrote in message
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
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Please tell us that you don't actually believe that Mr. Mundie was
"promoting products and technology" for any other reason than corporate
financial interests.


I am 100% implying that he was and is continuing to promote corporate
financial interests. Do you honestly believe that NAB is geared towards
ANYTHING but corporate or personal financial interests for ANYONE
involved as exhibitor, presenter or attendee? Was there an open source
booth full of altruistic philanthropists that I've missed all these
years? Would you expect Microsoft, Motorola, Sony, Panasonic etc etc to
be anything but interested in making money? If you want MS driven
philanthropy go here to start your quest:
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx




What color pom-poms do you like to use when you're doing your
cheerleader/dance routines for Bill?

There you go, another intelligent response on your part. You post with a
fake name and a fake email address while attacking people and while somehow
thinking that someone should take anything you say with any credence. You
appear to just be another anti-Microsoft, anti-capitalism Usenet troll like
so many before you. Nice trying to have a conversation with you.

"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
Please tell us that you don't actually believe that Mr. Mundie was
"promoting products and technology" for any other reason than corporate
financial interests.


I am 100% implying that he was and is continuing to promote corporate
financial interests. Do you honestly believe that NAB is geared towards
ANYTHING but corporate or personal financial interests for ANYONE
involved as exhibitor, presenter or attendee? Was there an open source
booth full of altruistic philanthropists that I've missed all these
years? Would you expect Microsoft, Motorola, Sony, Panasonic etc etc to
be anything but interested in making money? If you want MS driven
philanthropy go here to start your quest:
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx




What color pom-poms do you like to use when you're doing your
cheerleader/dance routines for Bill?

There you go, another intelligent response on your part. You post with a
fake name and a fake email address while attacking people and while
somehow thinking that someone should take anything you say with any
credence. You appear to just be another anti-Microsoft, anti-capitalism
Usenet troll like so many before you. Nice trying to have a conversation
with you.


You're being silly. I'm not anti-MS or anti-capitalism, my best friend's
wife is a manager there, and we made a tidy sum with MSFT [and many other
tech stocks] in the late 80s and the 90s.

So, to what might you attribute this bizarre personal fixation you have on
Bill? Some strange flavor of OCD?

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
...

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
Please tell us that you don't actually believe that Mr. Mundie was
"promoting products and technology" for any other reason than
corporate financial interests.


I am 100% implying that he was and is continuing to promote corporate
financial interests. Do you honestly believe that NAB is geared towards
ANYTHING but corporate or personal financial interests for ANYONE
involved as exhibitor, presenter or attendee? Was there an open source
booth full of altruistic philanthropists that I've missed all these
years? Would you expect Microsoft, Motorola, Sony, Panasonic etc etc to
be anything but interested in making money? If you want MS driven
philanthropy go here to start your quest:
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx




What color pom-poms do you like to use when you're doing your
cheerleader/dance routines for Bill?

There you go, another intelligent response on your part. You post with a
fake name and a fake email address while attacking people and while
somehow thinking that someone should take anything you say with any
credence. You appear to just be another anti-Microsoft, anti-capitalism
Usenet troll like so many before you. Nice trying to have a conversation
with you.


You're being silly. I'm not anti-MS or anti-capitalism, my best friend's
wife is a manager there, and we made a tidy sum with MSFT [and many other
tech stocks] in the late 80s and the 90s.

So, to what might you attribute this bizarre personal fixation you have on
Bill? Some strange flavor of OCD?

Actually seems you should turn the question around on yourself. Your are the
one who is fixated at calling Craig Mundie an MS fanboy (and why shouldn't
he be?) while offering a link and no dialog to support your assertions about
being somehow anti HDTV in 1998. You post with a fake name, you happily take
money from stock sales of companies you profess not to respect. So you slept
with Microsoft for the money....good for you, we now know your profession.

Do you show your best friend's wife your postings and let her know they
are from you? Nothing quite like trying to undermine the business foundation
of your best friends. Hopefully she won't be laid off....but at least you
are doing your part suggesting that Microsoft is anti HDTV on this
newsgroup.

Meanwhile, I watch 1080i HDTV every day on my Microsoft Media Center
Extender from my Microsoft Vista powered computer with Windows Media Center
and it seems to work just fine.

UCLAN wrote:
At the dawn of HDTV, about a decade ago, prominent industry observers
predicted its quick demise, pointing out that there was no economic
incentive for program providers to spend the extra money to create HDTV
programming, while consumers would shun pricey HDTV sets because
standard definition wide-screen pictures would look almost as good.

And they, too, were wrong.

With the initial high prices of Blu-ray players, critics of this
technology have argued that Blu-ray is too little too late, a product
that might have made it in the days before broadband was considered as a
popular delivery mechanism for moving images. Just as consumers
abandoned CDs in favor of digital audio downloads, so too would they
eschew a physical DVD for the instantaneous gratification of streaming
video from the Web.

No one knows if Blu-ray will ultimately succeed, but let’s take a look
at a few factors favoring that possibility:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/...nking-blu-ray/


I recently got my second Blu-ray player (Samsung) that supports
Netflick's streaming movies. I have the highest bandwidth my cable
company offers (10 to 12 megabits up; 30 megabits down) and the movies
look like a VHS tape.

Until they can provide the bandwidth at a reasonable price to stream
1080P I will stick with my view-and-return Blu-Ray disks from Netflicks.
Nothing today comes close to the Netflick Blu-ray deal.

Sam Spade wrote:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/...nking-blu-ray/

I recently got my second Blu-ray player (Samsung) that supports
Netflick's streaming movies. I have the highest bandwidth my cable
company offers (10 to 12 megabits up; 30 megabits down) and the movies
look like a VHS tape.

Until they can provide the bandwidth at a reasonable price to stream
1080P I will stick with my view-and-return Blu-Ray disks from Netflicks.
Nothing today comes close to the Netflick Blu-ray deal.

I prefer the Blockbuster Blu-ray deal. No Blu-ray surcharge, and they offer
in-store exchanges (but we've discussed *that* difference ad nauseam lately.)

"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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..nytimes.com/2009/04/23/rethinking-blu-ray/


I recently got my second Blu-ray player (Samsung) that supports Netflick's
streaming movies. I have the highest bandwidth my cable company offers
(10 to 12 megabits up; 30 megabits down) and the movies look like a VHS
tape.

Until they can provide the bandwidth at a reasonable price to stream 1080P
I will stick with my view-and-return Blu-Ray disks from Netflicks. Nothing
today comes close to the Netflick Blu-ray deal.

Sam,

I have the Samsung BDP 2550 and some of the netflix stuff looks much better
than VHS. You need to take a careful look at the movies you cue up for
streaming...some of them are labled HD and most are not. The HD labled ones
look pretty good. If you don't see HD listed in the quality graphic progress
line on the initial streaming screen on your player, then you don't have an
HD stream cued up.

I agree that the non "HD" streams look like VHS.

"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Sam Spade" wrote in message
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.nytimes.com/2009/04/23/rethinking-blu-ray/


I recently got my second Blu-ray player (Samsung) that
supports Netflick's streaming movies. I have the highest
bandwidth my cable company offers (10 to 12 megabits up; 30
megabits down) and the movies look like a VHS tape.

Until they can provide the bandwidth at a reasonable price to
stream 1080P I will stick with my view-and-return Blu-Ray
disks from Netflicks. Nothing today comes close to the
Netflick Blu-ray deal.

Sam,

I have the Samsung BDP 2550 and some of the netflix stuff
looks much better than VHS. You need to take a careful look at
the movies you cue up for streaming...some of them are labled
HD and most are not. The HD labled ones look pretty good. If
you don't see HD listed in the quality graphic progress line
on the initial streaming screen on your player, then you don't
have an HD stream cued up.

I agree that the non "HD" streams look like VHS.


Much depends upon the cinematographer and lighting. The
Jackson/Harris flick "The Cleaner," while not great story
telling, was astute camera work. Even via NetFlix the images
are crystal. It enhanced an otherwise completely shippable
video.

"UCLAN" wrote in message
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At the dawn of HDTV, about a decade ago, prominent industry
observers predicted its quick demise, pointing out that there was no
economic incentive for program providers to spend the extra money to
create HDTV programming, while consumers would shun pricey HDTV sets
because standard definition wide-screen pictures would look almost
as good.

And they, too, were wrong.

With the initial high prices of Blu-ray players, critics of this
technology have argued that Blu-ray is too little too late, a
product that might have made it in the days before broadband was
considered as a popular delivery mechanism for moving images. Just
as consumers abandoned CDs in favor of digital audio downloads, so
too would they eschew a physical DVD for the instantaneous
gratification of streaming video from the Web.

No one knows if Blu-ray will ultimately succeed, but let’s take a
look at a few factors favoring that possibility:

http://gadgetwise.blogs.nytimes.com/...nking-blu-ray/

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They don't seem to mention that ISP providers will all soon be
charging by the byte.

On Sat, 25 Apr 2009 13:09:53 -0700, "L Alpert"
wrote:

They don't seem to mention that ISP providers will all soon be
charging by the byte.

Or that even now they engage in 'packet shaping', which throttles
speeds to individual users in order to maintain a consistent level of
service for a given network segment.

That 10,000 kbps connection that you're used to, may very well
magically convert to a 2,000 kbps connection whenever you connect to
the Netflix server.

A_C

"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
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"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
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"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
"Charles Tomaras" wrote in message
...

"Kalarama" wrote in message
...
Please tell us that you don't actually believe that Mr. Mundie was
"promoting products and technology" for any other reason than
corporate financial interests.


I am 100% implying that he was and is continuing to promote corporate
financial interests. Do you honestly believe that NAB is geared
towards
ANYTHING but corporate or personal financial interests for ANYONE
involved as exhibitor, presenter or attendee? Was there an open source
booth full of altruistic philanthropists that I've missed all these
years? Would you expect Microsoft, Motorola, Sony, Panasonic etc etc
to
be anything but interested in making money? If you want MS driven
philanthropy go here to start your quest:
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Pages/home.aspx




What color pom-poms do you like to use when you're doing your
cheerleader/dance routines for Bill?

There you go, another intelligent response on your part. You post with a
fake name and a fake email address while attacking people and while
somehow thinking that someone should take anything you say with any
credence. You appear to just be another anti-Microsoft, anti-capitalism
Usenet troll like so many before you. Nice trying to have a conversation
with you.


You're being silly. I'm not anti-MS or anti-capitalism, my best friend's
wife is a manager there, and we made a tidy sum with MSFT [and many other
tech stocks] in the late 80s and the 90s.

So, to what might you attribute this bizarre personal fixation you have
on
Bill? Some strange flavor of OCD?

Actually seems you should turn the question around on yourself. Your are
the
one who is fixated at calling Craig Mundie an MS fanboy (and why shouldn't
he be?) while offering a link and no dialog to support your assertions
about
being somehow anti HDTV in 1998. You post with a fake name, you happily
take
money from stock sales of companies you profess not to respect. So you
slept
with Microsoft for the money....good for you, we now know your profession.

Do you show your best friend's wife your postings and let her know they
are from you? Nothing quite like trying to undermine the business
foundation
of your best friends. Hopefully she won't be laid off....but at least you
are doing your part suggesting that Microsoft is anti HDTV on this
newsgroup.

Meanwhile, I watch 1080i HDTV every day on my Microsoft Media Center
Extender from my Microsoft Vista powered computer with Windows Media
Center and it seems to work just fine.


Searching google groups on your older postings shows you're profoundly
obsessed with Bill, and I've seen that many others have told you you're
mentally ill.

Couldn't you even see I was being facetious by the winky after "fanboi"? I
hate that term.

So, let me ask again, to what might you possibly attribute this bizarre
fixation you've carefully focused on Bill?