Slightly OT - Sky dish

Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be considered
detrimental to the visual amenity......so what they're saying is that nobody
on my entire estate can put a dish on the front of their property - so since
Sky dishes face south (i think) that means everyone who's property front
faces south on the entire estate cannot have any chance of erecting a dish.
Obviously with the powers that be there is little point in arguing the toss
with them so i have just fired off an email to the person who has written to
me but i've just wasted my time most likely. I *may* be able to install a
dish on the back of my property due to the direction the other dishes go (i
think its touch and go as the dishes point down the way of the wall but
others on this street are on the front) but which company is gonna come out,
get their equipment out and do tests free of charge to see where the dish
would need to be situated when there's a chance they'll be packing their
gear away without doing any work therefore not getting paid? I've done this
the right way by asking permission as i thought i would need to....but there
are hundreds of houses in the estate who've most likely not realised that
they needed permission or just thought "sod it nobody will ever come and
check". However i could not do that as the "person" upstairs would have
complained if i'd just put a dish up just to be awkward. Anyway, anybody
who's ever been to Ashbrooke in Sunderland will see that its far from a
place of natural beauty so not even sure why it IS a conservation area and i
can't see much that i can see the need to conserve? Not really got a
question to ask i just wanted to rant somewhere and maybe get some opinions
on anyone who's been in the same position regarding putting a dish up.
Thanks. Dave, Sunderland.

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:34:45 +0100, "Dodgy Dave"
wrote:

Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be considered
detrimental to the visual amenity......so what they're saying is that nobody
on my entire estate can put a dish on the front of their property - so since
Sky dishes face south (i think) that means everyone who's property front
faces south on the entire estate cannot have any chance of erecting a dish.
Obviously with the powers that be there is little point in arguing the toss
with them so i have just fired off an email to the person who has written to
me but i've just wasted my time most likely. I *may* be able to install a
dish on the back of my property due to the direction the other dishes go (i
think its touch and go as the dishes point down the way of the wall but
others on this street are on the front) but which company is gonna come out,
get their equipment out and do tests free of charge to see where the dish
would need to be situated when there's a chance they'll be packing their
gear away without doing any work therefore not getting paid? I've done this
the right way by asking permission as i thought i would need to....but there
are hundreds of houses in the estate who've most likely not realised that
they needed permission or just thought "sod it nobody will ever come and
check". However i could not do that as the "person" upstairs would have
complained if i'd just put a dish up just to be awkward. Anyway, anybody
who's ever been to Ashbrooke in Sunderland will see that its far from a
place of natural beauty so not even sure why it IS a conservation area and i
can't see much that i can see the need to conserve? Not really got a
question to ask i just wanted to rant somewhere and maybe get some opinions
on anyone who's been in the same position regarding putting a dish up.
Thanks. Dave, Sunderland.


Take a look at:

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/referen...ed-by-roof.pdf

It may help

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Cheers

Peter

In article , Dodgy Dave
scribeth thus
Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be considered
detrimental to the visual amenity......so what they're saying is that nobody
on my entire estate can put a dish on the front of their property - so since
Sky dishes face south (i think) that means everyone who's property front
faces south on the entire estate cannot have any chance of erecting a dish.
Obviously with the powers that be there is little point in arguing the toss
with them so i have just fired off an email to the person who has written to
me but i've just wasted my time most likely. I *may* be able to install a
dish on the back of my property due to the direction the other dishes go (i
think its touch and go as the dishes point down the way of the wall but
others on this street are on the front) but which company is gonna come out,
get their equipment out and do tests free of charge to see where the dish
would need to be situated when there's a chance they'll be packing their
gear away without doing any work therefore not getting paid? I've done this
the right way by asking permission as i thought i would need to....but there
are hundreds of houses in the estate who've most likely not realised that
they needed permission or just thought "sod it nobody will ever come and
check". However i could not do that as the "person" upstairs would have
complained if i'd just put a dish up just to be awkward. Anyway, anybody
who's ever been to Ashbrooke in Sunderland will see that its far from a
place of natural beauty so not even sure why it IS a conservation area and i
can't see much that i can see the need to conserve? Not really got a
question to ask i just wanted to rant somewhere and maybe get some opinions
on anyone who's been in the same position regarding putting a dish up.
Thanks. Dave, Sunderland.



Tell your names sunil or hamid, and that you want to watch TV from "back
home" and under the 'uman rights act you can do that;!..

Then watch them back down..

What a bunch of arseholes.. So what do they do about terrestrial TV
then? .. no TV aerials?..
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Tony Sayer

In article , Petert
scribeth thus
On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 15:34:45 +0100, "Dodgy Dave"
wrote:

Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be considered
detrimental to the visual amenity......so what they're saying is that nobody
on my entire estate can put a dish on the front of their property - so since
Sky dishes face south (i think) that means everyone who's property front
faces south on the entire estate cannot have any chance of erecting a dish.
Obviously with the powers that be there is little point in arguing the toss
with them so i have just fired off an email to the person who has written to
me but i've just wasted my time most likely. I *may* be able to install a
dish on the back of my property due to the direction the other dishes go (i
think its touch and go as the dishes point down the way of the wall but
others on this street are on the front) but which company is gonna come out,
get their equipment out and do tests free of charge to see where the dish
would need to be situated when there's a chance they'll be packing their
gear away without doing any work therefore not getting paid? I've done this
the right way by asking permission as i thought i would need to....but there
are hundreds of houses in the estate who've most likely not realised that
they needed permission or just thought "sod it nobody will ever come and
check". However i could not do that as the "person" upstairs would have
complained if i'd just put a dish up just to be awkward. Anyway, anybody
who's ever been to Ashbrooke in Sunderland will see that its far from a
place of natural beauty so not even sure why it IS a conservation area and i
can't see much that i can see the need to conserve? Not really got a
question to ask i just wanted to rant somewhere and maybe get some opinions
on anyone who's been in the same position regarding putting a dish up.
Thanks. Dave, Sunderland.


Take a look at:

http://www.wrightsaerials.tv/referen...ed-by-roof.pdf

It may help


Take a look at protesting and standing up for your rights to view and
receive TV how you want to.. Bet they would en France!..
--
Tony Sayer

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dodgy Dave"
saying something like:

Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be considered
detrimental to the visual amenity...

They don't have to be on the wall, you know.
Can you put it on a 6ft pole in your back garden, so that it clears the
roofline of your house? Another way is to replace some roof tiles with
fibreglass ones and mount it in the attic.

On 09/04/2009 in message tony sayer wrote:

What a bunch of arseholes.. So what do they do about terrestrial TV
then? .. no TV aerials?..

There's an exemption for aerials, but satellite dishes don't fall within it.

--
Jeff Gaines Damerham Hampshire UK
I can please only one person per day. Today is not your day.
Tomorrow, isn't looking good either.

"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message
...
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dodgy Dave"
saying something like:

Just an update to my post on the 28th regarding installing Sky without
phone
line - well its irrelevant anyway as the council have refused me
permission
to install a dish anyway. As i apparently live in a conservation area they
claim that installing a dish on the front of my property would be
considered
detrimental to the visual amenity...

They don't have to be on the wall, you know.
Can you put it on a 6ft pole in your back garden, so that it clears the
roofline of your house? Another way is to replace some roof tiles with
fibreglass ones and mount it in the attic.

I live in a 2nd floor flat and there is another floor above me. The dish
would need to be facing back down the street (thats the best way i can think
of to describe it) thats why i'm not 100% sure whether it needs to be
erected on the front wall or back wall. If its on the back wall then there's
a mini roof also that could block the signal. I think the installer would
have to bring special brackets so that the dish is away from the wall if i
was to get it put on the back of the property.....plus it would then require
a mile of cable to go over the high roof to the front of the building. I'd
just rather get permission from the authorities cos there's a troublemaker
upstairs who would love to have me install the dish then grass me to make me
take it down. Some people.

On Thu, 9 Apr 2009 20:33:36 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:


Take a look at protesting and standing up for your rights to view and
receive TV how you want to.. Bet they would en France!..

What about the human rights of people who chose to live there because
it's not plastered with dishes?

"Dodgy Dave" wrote:

I *may* be able to install a
dish on the back of my property due to the direction

Anyway, anybody
who's ever been to Ashbrooke in Sunderland

So plugging "Sunderland" and "28.2E Astra" into dishpointer.com gives:

Elevation: 21.9°, Azimuth (true): 145.2°, Azimuth (magnetic): 148.1

Check with a compass.

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Dave Farrance

On 9 Apr 2009 21:30:38 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
wrote:

On 09/04/2009 in message tony sayer wrote:

What a bunch of arseholes.. So what do they do about terrestrial TV
then? .. no TV aerials?..

There's an exemption for aerials, but satellite dishes don't fall within it.

maybe now that terrestrial TV coverage is going to get worse as some
small relays dont get switched over, you should complain about this to
Ofcom?
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