Sky without phone line

"Tony" wrote in message
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"Graham." wrote in message
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No because they collect stats about what you have been watching,
use it
for
interactive services and premium services such as pay per view.
They also want to sell you internet and their own phone system!
SKY will install a line for new customers, it is to be announced
soon.

Are you thick or something? The OP said he had no use for a phone
line and
never needed one. Why would he go to the cost of getting an phoneline
that
he doesn't need, just to get Sky's ****ty channel lineup?






If you want Sky non-free services and don't have a phone line they will
have to install one or (more likely) refuse to provide you with their
services. (Remember that when ordering you will be talking to a droid
with a script - not someone who might conceivably have an ounce of sense
or interest.)


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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:07:40 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

You would think a VoIP would work, especially as it is easy to
present a CLI that looks like a landline, but I have tried several
times, with more than one provider, but it always fails to handshake
properly.
Moreover, I have yet to see any verifiable claim that anyone has
succeeded in doing this.

Oh right, fair enough. I assumed as I can successfully send faxes etc.
over VOIP that it would be able to connect to Sky.

I don't know if a GSM gateway would work, but I doubt Sky
would be fooled by an 07 CLI.

That's a good point.

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"Doug Paulley" wrote in
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:07:40 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

You would think a VoIP would work, especially as it is easy to
present a CLI that looks like a landline, but I have tried several
times, with more than one provider, but it always fails to handshake
properly.
Moreover, I have yet to see any verifiable claim that anyone has
succeeded in doing this.

I have had it working with Sipgate. It took a lot of messing around with the
settings on my ATA and was never particularly reliable.

Paul

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"Doug Paulley" wrote in
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:07:40 +0100, "Graham." wrote:

You would think a VoIP would work, especially as it is easy to
present a CLI that looks like a landline, but I have tried several
times, with more than one provider, but it always fails to handshake
properly.
Moreover, I have yet to see any verifiable claim that anyone has
succeeded in doing this.

I have had it working with Sipgate. It took a lot of messing around with
the settings on my ATA and was never particularly reliable.

Paul

I was rather hoping my comment would elicit such a response.
I've tried Sipgate with a PAP2 using G411 and all the echo suppression
turned off
but I can't get it to work. It's just an academic exercise, I don't need
the facility myself. Any tips?

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"Al" wrote in message
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Hi. I'm looking to get Sky installed at my flat but unfortunately i do
not have a landline installed (never needed one)

Are you allowed to install a dish? Many fall foul of the 'no external
modifications' clause in the leasehold.

Al.

I've applied to Sunderland council to install a dish as i live in a
conservation area so once that (hopefully) comes through i'll be actively
looking for the cheapest option to install as i only really want the free
channels.

"Adrian" wrote in message
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Dodgy Dave wrote:
Hi. I'm looking to get Sky installed at my flat but unfortunately i
do not have a landline installed (never needed one) - but all the Sky
offers available seem to insist that a landline is required. Is there
any way to get Sky installed without a landline. I did discover a
forum where the "pay once watch forever" package that i was looking
at was discussed and some posters indicated that a fee could be paid
to remove the need for a landline but the posters were off a year and
a half ago so it may have changed. Any opinions or help would be
appreciated. Dave.

I think all sky installs require you to have a phone line connected for a
year, maybe you could have Freesat installed then if you really want a sky
box get a second hand one afterwards.
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Thanks. I'll have a look for Freesat info as i assume i'll be receiving the
same channels as the ones in the "pay once watch forever" package?

"Ade Evans" wrote in message
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nope, pay £25 and u dont need a phone line. that'll only work if you have
just one box



I did read about the £25 fee for an installation without landline but the
forum posts were a year and a half ago so i couldn't really rely on the same
rules/fees applying.

"Graham." wrote in message
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"Dodgy Dave" wrote in message
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Hi. I'm looking to get Sky installed at my flat but unfortunately i do
not have a landline installed (never needed one) - but all the Sky offers
available seem to insist that a landline is required. Is there any way to
get Sky installed without a landline. I did discover a forum where the
"pay once watch forever" package that i was looking at was discussed and
some posters indicated that a fee could be paid to remove the need for a
landline but the posters were off a year and a half ago so it may have
changed. Any opinions or help would be appreciated. Dave.


Can you "borrow" a phone line, on the end of a long extension lead,
from a neighbour until the installer leaves?
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Good plan. Maybe the tenant next door will help me out if i get stuck as he
has a Virginmedia line.

Mike Henry wrote:
In , "Dodgy Dave"
wrote:

Thanks. I'll have a look for Freesat info as i assume i'll be
receiving the same channels as the ones in the "pay once watch
forever" package?

Unfortunately not. Channel Five, Sky 3, Channel 4 HD, Five US, Five
US +1, FIVER and FIVER +1 are all encrypted using Sky's proprietary
system that Sky refuse to release a CAM for, so those channels can
only be decrypted using a proprietary Sky Digibox. They are "free to
view" channels as opposed to "free to air" which is what Freesat's
lineup is. HTH.

Correct apart from Channel Five, that is available on a Freesat box.
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On Mon, 30 Mar 2009 00:00:51 +0100, Dodgy Dave wrote:

i'll be actively looking for the cheapest option to install as i only
really want the free channels.

So you should be considering buying a free to air DVB-s/MPEG-2 + DVB-s2/MPEG-4,
plus a rotor if you want hundreds more non-English language stations (although
some of them sometimes carry English soundtrack or English subtitles) received
and just forget about giving any money to B$kyB.