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Old March 15th 09, 01:00 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
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mr deo wrote:
Also, the source material may not be 1080, but BBC(HD) and ITV(HD)

should
still look great in comparision.


What ITV HD progs have you seen?

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I had some source material that I saved on the pc, it was clearly better
quality, but I have heard lots of bad points about the ItvHD source..
The fact that some weeks they only have a single show on is a bit sad.


http://www.freesat.co.uk/index.php?p...son.HDschedule


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Old March 15th 09, 01:30 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
mr deo wrote:
What ITV HD progs have you seen?


I had some source material that I saved on the pc, it was clearly better
quality, but I have heard lots of bad points about the ItvHD source..
The fact that some weeks they only have a single show on is a bit sad.


That's what I meant - they are few and far between. 'The Bill' has just
started production in HD so that at least will be a regular one.

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Old March 15th 09, 05:21 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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SNIP
HD one(s)...
HD One (BBCHD)
:P
ITV has some, but not a lot..
Also, the source material may not be 1080, but BBC(HD) and ITV(HD) should
still look great in comparision.


Also Luxe HD is broadcast 24hr - though is not part of Freesat you should be
able to manually tune to it;
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html
BTW it is cheaper to build a Home theatre PC form scratch than it is to buy
one of these freesat recorders. The PC can do all the usual record one watch
another, full EPG that is not limited to to Freesat etc - but in addition
does all the other lovely things a PC can do! Last time I priced up a decent
spec HTPC with dual DVB-T and dual DVB-S tuners (i.e. record three watch
one) it came to £250.


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Old March 15th 09, 09:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I am going to buy some better quality F connectors though.

F connectors need to exactly match the particular cable you are using.
www.Satcure.co.uk is a good source



Just one Q for the Humax users. Is there a setting whereby I can tone
down the screen on the player itself. They are very bright digits
about 200mm below the screen. When concentrating on the picture one
does not really notice the brightness but it would be good to tone it
down a little.


If you are refering to the Humax HDR, then I think the answer is no,
but the subject has arisen in the digital spy forum.


--
Michael Chare


Yes thanks I am considering those from Satcure as I should have when I
bought the complete system by the look of it. The company I used, who
share remain nameless, were poor.

So hopefully the bright display may be a future software mod. A piece of
blue acetate behind the door for the moment then............



I took the glare right down on my Humax HDR by inserting a red sweet
wrapper film behind the drop down flap. It is still readable in a tasty
red glow :-)

Richard H



please can you specify the sweet and I'll nip down our Tesco Express :-).

I did the same with a bedside radio/clock............oh the wife has just
said she has some Blue Velum.............nice.

how are you finding the HDR, I really enjoyed the rugby yesterday and it
does make a lot of difference to the watchability......IMHO...that is.

anyone living in Winchester want to hire a Sat meter.............what do
we do with it after use............bung it in a drawer somewhere until
next time, when it will be lost to the world.


The rugby today was a hell of a lot better than yesterday's :-)
I had some neighbours round to share the enjoyment. Great game and they came
with a good supply of lager!

The Sat HD experience is great, there is however a great big but at the
moment. There is so very little actually broadcast and a high percentage is
repeats or previews. Oh well so not much difference from SD in that respect.

Richard H


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Old March 15th 09, 10:50 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I am going to buy some better quality F connectors though.

F connectors need to exactly match the particular cable you are using.
www.Satcure.co.uk is a good source



Just one Q for the Humax users. Is there a setting whereby I can tone
down the screen on the player itself. They are very bright digits
about 200mm below the screen. When concentrating on the picture one
does not really notice the brightness but it would be good to tone it
down a little.


If you are refering to the Humax HDR, then I think the answer is no,
but the subject has arisen in the digital spy forum.


--
Michael Chare


Yes thanks I am considering those from Satcure as I should have when I
bought the complete system by the look of it. The company I used, who
share remain nameless, were poor.

So hopefully the bright display may be a future software mod. A piece
of blue acetate behind the door for the moment then............



I took the glare right down on my Humax HDR by inserting a red sweet
wrapper film behind the drop down flap. It is still readable in a tasty
red glow :-)

Richard H



please can you specify the sweet and I'll nip down our Tesco Express :-).

I did the same with a bedside radio/clock............oh the wife has just
said she has some Blue Velum.............nice.

how are you finding the HDR, I really enjoyed the rugby yesterday and it
does make a lot of difference to the watchability......IMHO...that is.

anyone living in Winchester want to hire a Sat meter.............what do
we do with it after use............bung it in a drawer somewhere until
next time, when it will be lost to the world.


The rugby today was a hell of a lot better than yesterday's :-)
I had some neighbours round to share the enjoyment. Great game and they
came with a good supply of lager!

The Sat HD experience is great, there is however a great big but at the
moment. There is so very little actually broadcast and a high percentage
is repeats or previews. Oh well so not much difference from SD in that
respect.

Richard H



yes the ruger was good especially as we beat the Frenchies and I enjoyed
Larkrise........

are you viewing with a HDR 320 and if so perhaps you could answer a Q.
Pressing i on the handset, the info plate pops up, along the bottom right
hand are 2 horizontal bands coloured red, amber and green. Are these the
signal strengths from both tuners. If so the top one of mine does not quite
cover the green, is that OK or can I adjust it somehow.

thanks


  #16  
Old March 15th 09, 11:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 21:50:38 -0000, "Tom E" wrote:


"Hawkins" wrote in message
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"Tom E" wrote in message
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"Hawkins" wrote in message
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"Tom E" wrote in message
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"Michael Chare" wrote in message
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"Tom E" wrote in message
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I am going to buy some better quality F connectors though.

F connectors need to exactly match the particular cable you are using.
www.Satcure.co.uk is a good source



Just one Q for the Humax users. Is there a setting whereby I can tone
down the screen on the player itself. They are very bright digits
about 200mm below the screen. When concentrating on the picture one
does not really notice the brightness but it would be good to tone it
down a little.


If you are refering to the Humax HDR, then I think the answer is no,
but the subject has arisen in the digital spy forum.


--
Michael Chare


Yes thanks I am considering those from Satcure as I should have when I
bought the complete system by the look of it. The company I used, who
share remain nameless, were poor.

So hopefully the bright display may be a future software mod. A piece
of blue acetate behind the door for the moment then............



I took the glare right down on my Humax HDR by inserting a red sweet
wrapper film behind the drop down flap. It is still readable in a tasty
red glow :-)

Richard H



please can you specify the sweet and I'll nip down our Tesco Express :-).

I did the same with a bedside radio/clock............oh the wife has just
said she has some Blue Velum.............nice.

how are you finding the HDR, I really enjoyed the rugby yesterday and it
does make a lot of difference to the watchability......IMHO...that is.

anyone living in Winchester want to hire a Sat meter.............what do
we do with it after use............bung it in a drawer somewhere until
next time, when it will be lost to the world.


The rugby today was a hell of a lot better than yesterday's :-)
I had some neighbours round to share the enjoyment. Great game and they
came with a good supply of lager!

The Sat HD experience is great, there is however a great big but at the
moment. There is so very little actually broadcast and a high percentage
is repeats or previews. Oh well so not much difference from SD in that
respect.

Richard H



yes the ruger was good especially as we beat the Frenchies and I enjoyed
Larkrise........

are you viewing with a HDR 320 and if so perhaps you could answer a Q.
Pressing i on the handset, the info plate pops up, along the bottom right
hand are 2 horizontal bands coloured red, amber and green. Are these the
signal strengths from both tuners. If so the top one of mine does not quite
cover the green, is that OK or can I adjust it somehow.

thanks

On my Humax HDR (320GB) the top bar is the signal strength and the
bottom one is the signal quality for the tuner providing the picture
currently on the screen.

Menu System Diagnostics shows two sets of bars - one for each tuner.

As far as I know, so long as the signal quality bar is in the green
there is no problem.
  #17  
Old March 15th 09, 11:48 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Michael Chare
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"Tom E" wrote in message
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"Hawkins" wrote in message
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"Tom E" wrote in message
...

"Hawkins" wrote in message
...

"Tom E" wrote in message
...

"Michael Chare" wrote in message
...
"Tom E" wrote in message
...


I am going to buy some better quality F connectors though.

F connectors need to exactly match the particular cable you are
using. www.Satcure.co.uk is a good source



Just one Q for the Humax users. Is there a setting whereby I can
tone down the screen on the player itself. They are very bright
digits about 200mm below the screen. When concentrating on the
picture one does not really notice the brightness but it would be
good to tone it down a little.


If you are refering to the Humax HDR, then I think the answer is no,
but the subject has arisen in the digital spy forum.


--
Michael Chare


Yes thanks I am considering those from Satcure as I should have when I
bought the complete system by the look of it. The company I used, who
share remain nameless, were poor.

So hopefully the bright display may be a future software mod. A piece
of blue acetate behind the door for the moment then............



I took the glare right down on my Humax HDR by inserting a red sweet
wrapper film behind the drop down flap. It is still readable in a tasty
red glow :-)

Richard H



please can you specify the sweet and I'll nip down our Tesco Express
:-).

I did the same with a bedside radio/clock............oh the wife has
just said she has some Blue Velum.............nice.

how are you finding the HDR, I really enjoyed the rugby yesterday and it
does make a lot of difference to the watchability......IMHO...that is.

anyone living in Winchester want to hire a Sat meter.............what do
we do with it after use............bung it in a drawer somewhere until
next time, when it will be lost to the world.


The rugby today was a hell of a lot better than yesterday's :-)
I had some neighbours round to share the enjoyment. Great game and they
came with a good supply of lager!

The Sat HD experience is great, there is however a great big but at the
moment. There is so very little actually broadcast and a high percentage
is repeats or previews. Oh well so not much difference from SD in that
respect.

Richard H



yes the ruger was good especially as we beat the Frenchies and I enjoyed
Larkrise........

are you viewing with a HDR 320 and if so perhaps you could answer a Q.
Pressing i on the handset, the info plate pops up, along the bottom right
hand are 2 horizontal bands coloured red, amber and green. Are these the
signal strengths from both tuners. If so the top one of mine does not
quite cover the green, is that OK or can I adjust it somehow.


The top line is strength, the bottom line is the quality of the
programme/signal that you are watching

Press OPT+ and make a note of the frequency and polarity of the transponder
for the channel that you are watching.

Select Menu, Setup, Manual Tune and then select the transponder with the
frequency noted above.

You will then see the strength and quality of the signal that you are
receiving,

It is the quality rather than the strength that is important. In an ideal
world you would have 100% quality across all transponders.

If you search digitalspy you can see what others have achieved.

More signal strength/quality can be obtained mainly by using a bigger dish.


--
Michael Chare

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Old March 16th 09, 12:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Duncanson
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:48:48 -0000, "Michael Chare"
wrote:

"Tom E" wrote in message
...


are you viewing with a HDR 320 and if so perhaps you could answer a Q.
Pressing i on the handset, the info plate pops up, along the bottom right
hand are 2 horizontal bands coloured red, amber and green. Are these the
signal strengths from both tuners. If so the top one of mine does not
quite cover the green, is that OK or can I adjust it somehow.


The top line is strength, the bottom line is the quality of the
programme/signal that you are watching

Press OPT+ and make a note of the frequency and polarity of the transponder
for the channel that you are watching.

Select Menu, Setup, Manual Tune and then select the transponder with the
frequency noted above.

You will then see the strength and quality of the signal that you are
receiving,

It is the quality rather than the strength that is important. In an ideal
world you would have 100% quality across all transponders.

If you search digitalspy you can see what others have achieved.

More signal strength/quality can be obtained mainly by using a bigger dish.


Menu System Diagnostics shows the current details for both tuners:
transponder frequency, polarisation, etc. and signal strength and
quality.
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Old March 16th 09, 01:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
mr deo
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"GTS" wrote in message
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SNIP
HD one(s)...
HD One (BBCHD)
:P
ITV has some, but not a lot..
Also, the source material may not be 1080, but BBC(HD) and ITV(HD)

should
still look great in comparision.


Also Luxe HD is broadcast 24hr - though is not part of Freesat you should

be
able to manually tune to it;
http://www.lyngsat.com/28east.html
BTW it is cheaper to build a Home theatre PC form scratch than it is to

buy
one of these freesat recorders. The PC can do all the usual record one

watch
another, full EPG that is not limited to to Freesat etc - but in addition
does all the other lovely things a PC can do! Last time I priced up a

decent
spec HTPC with dual DVB-T and dual DVB-S tuners (i.e. record three watch
one) it came to £250.



I have found that watching live streams of h.264 isnt an easy task ..
possibly it's just me tho!...
There is actually a few Freesat EPG parsers out there if you build your own
theatre pc.
The other HUGE upshot of using a HTPC is that with a fast enough network,
you can set it up to give every TV/computer in the home a lower quality
(still HD) viewing box that will stream all of the source material (even
broadcast sat/dvb-t)..


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Old March 16th 09, 02:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Michael Chare
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"Peter Duncanson" wrote in message
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On Sun, 15 Mar 2009 22:48:48 -0000, "Michael Chare"
wrote:


Menu System Diagnostics shows the current details for both tuners:
transponder frequency, polarisation, etc. and signal strength and
quality.



Indeed, however, as this screen can show a signal on Tuner 2 even when
nothing is connected (and the STB is configured for two LNBs), I have never
really trusted it!


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