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Jeff Layman wrote:
Mark Carver wrote: Jeff Layman wrote: According to the 37LZD85 manual, the standby consumption is 0.3 w (without monitor out recording). I have a wattmeter attached to the TV, and according to that, the standby current is either 0.07A (16.1 w) or 0.16 A (36.8 w). There is no recording taking place or programmed to do so, so it should be 0.3 w. Why does the standby current vary? If it's anything like a Sony LCD TV, then it's because for a couple of minutes after being put into standby, it scans the band looking for any new or changed services. Wait a while, and you should see it drop to 0.3 w. Looking at the wattmeter first thing in the morning after the set has been off for many hours still shows it using 0.07A. When first coming out of standby it changes from 0.07A to 0.16A for a few seconds before coming on fully at around 0.7A. I will look at the setup menu to see if there is anything worth changing there to reduce the standby consumption. I wonder what will happen if I turn off "Auto Update Search in Standby" - it must be using more power to run the update search all the time. Just tried turning off auto update. No difference. Maybe I'll ask Panasonic. -- Jeff |
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SKY HD as it is now its an expensive joke.
No BBC 1 or 2, no ITV1 or Five HD. Channel 4 a couple of programmes a week in HD the rest up scaled At least FREESAT HD as it is now its a cheap joke "David" wrote in message ... "Bill Wright" wrote in message news ![]() "Paul Ratcliffe" wrote in message ... On 28 Feb 2009 21:42:00 GMT, Richard Tobin wrote: The marketing people are grossly incompetent and should all be shot. That's a bit harsh. and a bit final. -- Regards, David FREESAT HD as it is now its a joke. No BBC 1 or 2, no Ch4 or Five HD. ITV1 a couple of programmes a week in HD Please reply to News Group |
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The message
from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Richard Tobin wrote: In article , Paul wrote: http://www.avforums.com/forums/forum...ct-launch.html Unfortunately this basically just reproduces Panasonic's press releases. These are intended to make each range sound wonderful, by telling you some of the features they have. What I really want is something that says "the X range is like the Y range but cheaper because it doesn't have Z", but they'll never tell what a range *doesn't* have. -- Richard And if it does can you believe them? According to the 37LZD85 manual, the standby consumption is 0.3 w (without monitor out recording). I have a wattmeter attached to the TV, and according to that, the standby current is either 0.07A (16.1 w) or 0.16 A (36.8 w). There is no recording taking place or programmed to do so, so it should be 0.3 w. Just a question. Why are you not quoting your wattmeter's wattage reading? All you can say for certain, assuming you trust that 0.07A reading, is that you've calculated a 16.1VA figure from a voltage of 230. This does not preclude the wattage actually being 0.3W -- Regards, John. Please remove the "ohggcyht" before replying. The address has been munged to reject Spam-bots. |
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Paul Ratcliffe wrote:
[I'm sick of f*cking charity bags coming through the door - it's one every bloody week. Why hasn't the sodding useless government banned these instead of attempting to ban shopping bags which actually perform a useful function sometimes?] A few of these "charity bags" are commercial companies - some legit ones working on behalf, and the others are shady grifters propping up the black economy ... -- Adrian C |
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Adrian C wrote:
Paul Ratcliffe wrote: [I'm sick of f*cking charity bags coming through the door - it's one every bloody week. Why hasn't the sodding useless government banned these instead of attempting to ban shopping bags which actually perform a useful function sometimes?] A few of these "charity bags" are commercial companies - some legit ones working on behalf, and the others are shady grifters propping up the black economy ... A couple of genuine charities still leave bags (well, the odd one I've actually looked at) but the lower life forms just leave leaflets these days (and have done for ages). One we got recently was (almost) in English and was printed double sided. On the back they'd put a wonderful bit about how green they were by not leaving bags ...! They go straight into the recycling but, on the odd occasion that we check, we've often had seven in a week ...! .... There can't be a single item of unwanted clothing for miles - but still the pesky flyers keep coming! Terry |
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In article , Paul Ratcliffe
writes I'm sick of f*cking charity bags coming through the door - it's one every bloody week. Why hasn't the sodding useless government banned these instead of attempting to ban shopping bags which actually perform a useful function sometimes? Just one a week? You must live in a utopian paradise. I get a minimum of three. But they are cheaper than black bin liners, so they do serve a useful function. -- Kennedy Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed; A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's ****ed. Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying) |
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Johnny B Good wrote:
The message from "Jeff Layman" contains these words: Richard Tobin wrote: In article , Paul wrote: http://www.avforums.com/forums/forum...ct-launch.html Unfortunately this basically just reproduces Panasonic's press releases. These are intended to make each range sound wonderful, by telling you some of the features they have. What I really want is something that says "the X range is like the Y range but cheaper because it doesn't have Z", but they'll never tell what a range *doesn't* have. -- Richard And if it does can you believe them? According to the 37LZD85 manual, the standby consumption is 0.3 w (without monitor out recording). I have a wattmeter attached to the TV, and according to that, the standby current is either 0.07A (16.1 w) or 0.16 A (36.8 w). There is no recording taking place or programmed to do so, so it should be 0.3 w. Just a question. Why are you not quoting your wattmeter's wattage reading? All you can say for certain, assuming you trust that 0.07A reading, is that you've calculated a 16.1VA figure from a voltage of 230. This does not preclude the wattage actually being 0.3W For some reason on standby the wattage figure varies from second to second from about 4 - 30 watts, but if I switch the display to show current the reading is steady. I would assume that the set has a SMPS, and I guess this would have an impact on the displayed readings, although the meter accurately shows consumption at around 0.5 - 0.7A (depending on the picture) when the set is on. FWIW, the wattmeter (a Tchibo energy meter) has given reliable readings for several years with a number of devices. According to the tech specs, the "Measurement range displayed" is 0.02A. I have an old Panasonic DVD recorder with a SMPS, but unfortunately the manual does not give a standby consumption figure with which I could test and perhaps compare to the TV. -- Jeff |
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On Wed, 4 Mar 2009 12:55:43 +0000, Kennedy McEwen
wrote: I'm sick of f*cking charity bags coming through the door - it's one every bloody week. Why hasn't the sodding useless government banned these instead of attempting to ban shopping bags which actually perform a useful function sometimes? Just one a week? You must live in a utopian paradise. I get a minimum of three. But they are cheaper than black bin liners, so they do serve a useful function. Bugger. Strange as it may seem, I never thought of that. They never get collected so I end up throwing them away! |
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Terry Casey wrote:
... There can't be a single item of unwanted clothing for miles - but still the pesky flyers keep coming! Terry http://www.cabinetoffice.gov.uk/third_sector/news/news_stories/071203_bogus_charities_collections.aspx -- Adrian C |
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