Viewing distance?

Thumper wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:59:03 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Charles Tomaras wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message
...
My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have
CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12
ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens?
I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights
All depends on what your definition of "see it fine" is. If someone has
hearing impairment and can't hear anything above 2k then FINE music
reproduction is very different for that person than it is for someone who
hears above 16k. If your television makes you happy with your vision
impairment then I guess that's just fine for you, but I see no reason for
you to brag about it.


I would go further, there are some people I know who do not want
anything bigger than a 22" and they would probably think a 32" was
showing off.
It's a personal choice.

Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper

Strange because our bedroom TV is a 22" and we are about 1ft closer than
our lounge TV,which is a 42" and I have no problem reading text on the
screen.The distance we watch in the lounge is about 9ft....ish.

"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...


I would go further, there are some people I know who do not want
anything bigger than a 22" and they would probably think a 32" was
showing off.
It's a personal choice.

Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper

Strange because our bedroom TV is a 22" and we are about 1ft closer than
our lounge TV,which is a 42" and I have no problem reading text on the
screen.The distance we watch in the lounge is about 9ft....ish.

I think it's not as much about being able to read text than it is about
having an immersive or theatrical experience. Many people do not look for
that at home or in a bedroom....that is of course their preference. I
personally have difficulty having an immersive experience that distance from
a screen of that size. I have a 58" plasma in my living area that I view
from about 12 feet and I'm happily immersed. I have a 32" LCD in my bedroom
I watch from about the same distance and it's more for news and late night
comedy shows.

On Mar 1, 5:22*pm, Fred wrote:
My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12 ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens? I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights

I don't care about bragging rights. With glasses, my eyes adjust to a
little better than 20/20. Still, like every human being, my eyes have
a limited resolution. The eye resolution is described as pixels or
line pairs per degrees of arc. The farther the TV, the smaller it
looks (subtends less degrees of arc), and the less actual detail the
eye can perceive. Of, if you fix the distance, the smaller the TV at
a given distance the smaller it looks and the less actual detail the
eye can perceive. So, for any given size of TV, there is a distance
over which the human eye can no longer distinguish HD from SD. That
won't make the picture look bad, but why pay for HD if you can't see
it? Part of the enjoyment of HDTV is the "wow, look at the detail"
aspect.

So, if you don't care if you can see the extra detail, that's fine.
Enjoy your TV. But with a little imagination, you should be able to
see why some people would pay for a bigger TV.

Dan (Woj...)

On Mar 2, 2:51*am, "Charles Tomaras" wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message

...

My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have
CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12
ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens?
I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights

All depends on what your definition of "see it fine" is. If someone has
hearing impairment and can't hear anything above 2k then FINE music
reproduction is very different for that person than it is for someone who
hears above 16k. If your television makes you happy with your vision
impairment then I guess that's just fine for you, but I see no reason for
you to brag about it.

That's a good point. When we first got our Plasma TV, my mother-in-
law came to see it, and pooh-poohed the thing. Her (old analog) TV at
home had just as good a picture, she said. Two years later, same
mother-in-law saw the same Plasma TV from the same chair, but she had
recently had her cataracts removed. After oohing and ahing over the
wonderful picture, she insisted that father-in-law replace their home
TVs with "a TV like that".

I suspect that virtually anyone who can see the difference between HD
and SD will want HD, assuming they can afford it and can fit it in
their home.

Dan (Woj...)

dmaster said this on 3/2/2009 1:36 PM:
On Mar 1, 5:22 pm, Fred wrote:
My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12 ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens? I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights

I don't care about bragging rights. With glasses, my eyes adjust to a
little better than 20/20. Still, like every human being, my eyes have
a limited resolution. The eye resolution is described as pixels or
line pairs per degrees of arc. The farther the TV, the smaller it
looks (subtends less degrees of arc), and the less actual detail the
eye can perceive. Of, if you fix the distance, the smaller the TV at
a given distance the smaller it looks and the less actual detail the
eye can perceive. So, for any given size of TV, there is a distance
over which the human eye can no longer distinguish HD from SD. That
won't make the picture look bad, but why pay for HD if you can't see
it? Part of the enjoyment of HDTV is the "wow, look at the detail"
aspect.

So, if you don't care if you can see the extra detail, that's fine.
Enjoy your TV. But with a little imagination, you should be able to
see why some people would pay for a bigger TV.

Dan (Woj...)

I disagree. A fuzzy picture 5 feet away looks as bad as a fuzzy picture
20 feet away. My vision is 20/30 and a low res SD picture is not
friendly to my eyes. I don't care if its on the 13" or the 42", or what
distance I have to be. Its not clear and my eyes will never get it any
better than "not clear".

On Mar 2, 8:50*am, Thumper wrote:
....
Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper

This 22" is at 2' computer-monitor distance, and sharp enough to read
2 full pages of text side by side. It's about the same size and
resolution as an open magazine; fine for one, crowded for two. 4' is
still reasonable, at 5' and beyond it looks small.

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:51:55 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Thumper wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:59:03 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Charles Tomaras wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message
...
My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have
CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12
ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens?
I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights
All depends on what your definition of "see it fine" is. If someone has
hearing impairment and can't hear anything above 2k then FINE music
reproduction is very different for that person than it is for someone who
hears above 16k. If your television makes you happy with your vision
impairment then I guess that's just fine for you, but I see no reason for
you to brag about it.


I would go further, there are some people I know who do not want
anything bigger than a 22" and they would probably think a 32" was
showing off.
It's a personal choice.

Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper

Strange because our bedroom TV is a 22" and we are about 1ft closer than
our lounge TV,which is a 42" and I have no problem reading text on the
screen.The distance we watch in the lounge is about 9ft....ish.


Then you must be far sighted. I have a 22" screen and 20/20 vision
and can't read the crawl most of the time.
Thumper

Jim Wilkins wrote:
On Mar 2, 8:50 am, Thumper wrote:
...
Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper

This 22" is at 2' computer-monitor distance, and sharp enough to read
2 full pages of text side by side. It's about the same size and
resolution as an open magazine; fine for one, crowded for two. 4' is
still reasonable, at 5' and beyond it looks small.

Ah! computer text is a different issue and yes I agree with your
synopsis.

Thumper wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 16:51:55 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Thumper wrote:
On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 08:59:03 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

Charles Tomaras wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message
...
My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have
CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12
ft from
and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens?
I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights
All depends on what your definition of "see it fine" is. If someone has
hearing impairment and can't hear anything above 2k then FINE music
reproduction is very different for that person than it is for someone who
hears above 16k. If your television makes you happy with your vision
impairment then I guess that's just fine for you, but I see no reason for
you to brag about it.


I would go further, there are some people I know who do not want
anything bigger than a 22" and they would probably think a 32" was
showing off.
It's a personal choice.
Sure but you have to be damned close to a 22" to be able to read
anything on the screen.
Thumper
Strange because our bedroom TV is a 22" and we are about 1ft closer than
our lounge TV,which is a 42" and I have no problem reading text on the
screen.The distance we watch in the lounge is about 9ft....ish.


Then you must be far sighted. I have a 22" screen and 20/20 vision
and can't read the crawl most of the time.
Thumper

Are you in the UK or US?

On 01 Mar 2009 23:22:00 GMT, Fred wrote:

My wife has had a detached retina and can't see out of that eye. I have CSR and have
little vision in one eye and don't see great with the other.

I went from 27" crt to 32" HD. Our TV room ia 12 x 15 and we sit 10 to 12 ft from

I have a closet that large. grin


and see it fine. WTF is wrong with you ppl that you need such big screens? I
wouldn't want anyting bigger than 32" in my room.

I'm guessing 99% of you are simply looking for bragging rights