Scart over Cat 5e

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It is
not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables when
building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a Cat
5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available, but
I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound if
required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA

In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Eednud wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It
is not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables
when building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a
Cat 5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available,
but I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound
if required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA


You *may* be able to do it if you only want Composite Video quality (see
pinouts shown he http://pinouts.ru/Home/Scart_pinout.shtml ). If you
want RGB or S-Video, you almost certainly need more than 8 wires. I've never
tried this, and it occurs to me that there are possible reasons why it may
*not* work:
- there may be a limit on the length of Scart cable you can use
- twisted pair cable may not have the correct impedance characteristics

As an alternative approach, you can achieve perfectly good Composite Video
quality transmission - with stereo sound - using wireless video senders such
as http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=217641
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I was just imagining him downstairs getting ready to record on the video
upstairs, then running yup and starting it, but then, I'm quite silly
sometimes.

Brian

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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
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In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Eednud wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It
is not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables
when building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a
Cat 5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available,
but I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound
if required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA


You *may* be able to do it if you only want Composite Video quality (see
pinouts shown he http://pinouts.ru/Home/Scart_pinout.shtml ). If you
want RGB or S-Video, you almost certainly need more than 8 wires. I've
never tried this, and it occurs to me that there are possible reasons why
it may *not* work:
- there may be a limit on the length of Scart cable you can use
- twisted pair cable may not have the correct impedance characteristics

As an alternative approach, you can achieve perfectly good Composite Video
quality transmission - with stereo sound - using wireless video senders
such as http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=217641
--
Cheers,
Roger
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I wouldn't p*ss about with the current wiring, soldering SCART ...
http://www.macfh.co.uk/JavaJive/Audi...ART/SCART.html
.... is very fiddly ...
http://groups.google.com/group/uk.te...bf0a9a9d65bd5c

Some alternatives:

Wireless (no RGB?):
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Marmitek-Inv.../dp/B000MFK2OC


SCART to CAT5:
http://www.nexxia.co.uk/Audio_Connec...o1 QwodAwRqlg
http://www.connectivity.avocent.com/... Q9TtAodQA21nQ



On Sat, 28 Feb 2009 20:22:21 GMT, Eednud
wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It is
not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables when
building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a Cat
5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available, but
I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound if
required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA

Eednud wrote:
I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It is
not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables when
building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a Cat
5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available, but
I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound if
required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA
Doing this as you suggest will not produce an acceptable result, there
are lots of adapters on sale for doing this. Just type 'cat5 video' into
google, you'll get a lot of relevant hits.

"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Eednud wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It
is not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables
when building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a
Cat 5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available,
but I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound
if required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

TIA


You *may* be able to do it if you only want Composite Video quality (see
pinouts shown he http://pinouts.ru/Home/Scart_pinout.shtml ). If you
want RGB or S-Video, you almost certainly need more than 8 wires. I've
never tried this, and it occurs to me that there are possible reasons why
it may *not* work:
- there may be a limit on the length of Scart cable you can use
- twisted pair cable may not have the correct impedance characteristics

As an alternative approach, you can achieve perfectly good Composite Video
quality transmission - with stereo sound - using wireless video senders
such as http://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=217641

If you don't mind getting interference from microwave ovens or wireless
network routers, reduced picture resolution which is worse than an RF
modulator from a typical VCR, and noisy and distorted stereo sound, and the
5.8 GHz models won't give you improved picture or sound quality over the 2.4
GHz models apart from immunity from microwave ovens and domestic wireless
network routers. Don't believe one word of the claims about the range being
50 or 100 meters. Usable range is only up to 6 meters indoors and if you go
any further noise and distortion will be plainly obvious.

If he's going to run a cable from one room to the other then why not use Cat
7 cable which is screened and use S-Video instead of RGB which together with
stereo audio only requires 4 main wires and a common ground.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCART

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_7_cable

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Roger
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Eednud wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It is not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables when building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a Cat 5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available, but I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound if required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give sound and vision?

TIA


CAT 5 is rated to a fairly high frequency so give it a go. Use one twisted pair
for composite video, one for left and another for right audio and use the spare
pair possibly use it for the remote control or scart control voltage.

You will need to work out your own colour code. But attach one half of the
twisted pair to the screen / earth.

If the picture looks good to you then continue to use it. If it picture quality
is poor then you might need to look at buying a video sender.

It is up to you.

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Eednud wrote:
I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It is
not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables when
building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a Cat
5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available, but
I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound if
required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

You certainly have enough pairs for composite video and stereo sound. If
both devices have S-Video available on SCART you'd have enough for that
too. But you'd not have any of the auto switching a SCART normally
provides.

SCART RGB Input

1 - Audio out R
2 ˜ Audio in R
3 ˜ Audio out L
4 ˜ Audio ground
5 - Blue ground
6 - Audio in L
7 - Blue
8 - CVBS-status in 0-2V: INT
4.5-7V: EXT 16:9
9.5-12V: EXT 4:3
9 - Green ground
10
11 - Green
12
13 - Red ground
14 - RGB-status
15 ˜ Red
16 - RGB-status 0-0.4V: INT; 1-3V: EXT
17 ˜ CVBS ground
18 - CVBS ground
19 - CVBS out
20 - CVBS in
21 ˜ Earth screen

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"Roger Mills" wrote in message
...
In an earlier contribution to this discussion,
Eednud wrote:

I have a Virgin Media V+ box. It has a copy to VCR Function which
outputs a recorded programme (Stored on the internal HDD) via a scart
socket on the box, which should be connect to a VCR/DVDR.
I would like to transfer this to an upstairs room. I already have a
spare Cat 5e (4 twisted pairs) cable running between these rooms. It
is not possible to run any more cables, as I installed these cables
when building an extension.

Is it possible to solder the pins I require from the scart lead to a
Cat 5e cable to transfer this signal upstairs and then back to scart.

i realise that SCART has 21 pins and I only have 8 wires available,
but I just want a basic picture and would even settle for mono sound
if required.

Has anyone ever done this.... and what pins must be connected to give
sound and vision?

The pin-outs are found on many sites. Try Wiki. If you use composite just
make sure that you use a twisted pair for video, another for audio L, and
another for audio R.

You would have enough conductors for RGB if you used the same ground for all
the colours. That might work or it might not!. Since you are not going to
send any video or audio in the other direction crosstalk won't be a problem.
CAT 5 will handle the video alright for a short run, because a lot of CCTV
links use four core alarm cable. It can get a bit smeary above 7 or 8 metres
though.

I should give it a whirl.

Bill

On Feb 28, 9:34*pm, "Agamemnon" wrote:
"Roger Mills" wrote in message

As an alternative approach, you can achieve perfectly good Composite Video
quality transmission - with stereo sound - using wireless video senders
such ashttp://www.maplin.co.uk/Module.aspx?ModuleNo=217641

If you don't mind getting interference from microwave ovens or wireless
network routers

I tried using one of those (a Tesco own-branded one) to send signals
from my PVR to the kitchen TV - then I switched the microwave on and
nearly jumped out of my skin when an extremely loud buzz was emitted
from the TV speaker, and the picture went haywire.

Just how much energy actually does "leak out" from a typical microwave
oven?