Why Does The Goverment Hate Satellite Service Providers?

Thumper wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:54:23 -0500, "L Alpert"
wrote:

"JoeTheBlogger" wrote in message
...
KHudson wrote:
Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural Michigan,
introduced a
bill to require Dish Network and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV
channels in all US markets. Stupak said that the current practice
of
only carrying local channels for major population centers is unfair
to
rural citizens. But Stupak seems to miss two important economic and
scientific factors against his wishes, as well as an understanding
of
competition and what is fair

I think the REAL question is why does govenment hate business,
PERIOD...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...32053742.shtml
NO ACTUALLY THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY TO DUMOCratS HATE BUSINESS.
Democrats don't hate businesses, they just view them as a revenue
stream to feed more socialist programs.


Too bad that's not true.

IS TOO.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:55:14 -0600, Devil Dog wrote:

L Alpert wrote:

"JoeTheBlogger" wrote in message
...

KHudson wrote:

Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural Michigan,
introduced a
bill to require Dish Network and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV
channels in all US markets. Stupak said that the current practice
of
only carrying local channels for major population centers is unfair
to
rural citizens. But Stupak seems to miss two important economic and
scientific factors against his wishes, as well as an understanding
of
competition and what is fair

I think the REAL question is why does govenment hate business,
PERIOD...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...32053742.shtml

NO ACTUALLY THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY TO DUMOCratS HATE BUSINESS.


Democrats don't hate businesses, they just view them as a revenue
stream to feed more socialist programs.

I see the switch over date to digital has been changed (to stay on
topic)....


Yes but most of them are still going with February 17th date.

Too bad, changing it will not only cause more confusion, but cost many
stations a lot of money. In addition many were waiting for the high
UHF spectrum for public safety as well as interagency communications.

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:27:09 -0500, Kimba W Lion
wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Yes but most of them are still going with February 17th date.

No, most are not. Plus, the FCC has to grant permission, on a case-by-case
basis, to any station wishing to shut down analog before June 12.

More than a third plan on changing on the 17th
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10161213-93.html

As to who asked how many TV stations satellite stations would have to
carry if they had to carry all local stations there are over 1600 TV
stations in the US. That's more than all the channels on DISH Network
and Direct TV combined.

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:27:09 -0500, Kimba W Lion
wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Yes but most of them are still going with February 17th date.
No, most are not. Plus, the FCC has to grant permission, on a case-by-case
basis, to any station wishing to shut down analog before June 12.

More than a third plan on changing on the 17th
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10161213-93.html

It's easy to get the FCC "permission": "My transmitter/antenna/studio
is broken!"


As to who asked how many TV stations satellite stations would have to
carry if they had to carry all local stations there are over 1600 TV
stations in the US. That's more than all the channels on DISH Network
and Direct TV combined.

Do any in that count of "local stations" include cable "public access"?

JoeTheBlogger wrote:
Thumper wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:54:23 -0500, "L Alpert"
wrote:

"JoeTheBlogger" wrote in message
...
KHudson wrote:
Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural Michigan, introduced a
bill to require Dish Network and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV
channels in all US markets. Stupak said that the current practice of
only carrying local channels for major population centers is unfair to
rural citizens. But Stupak seems to miss two important economic and
scientific factors against his wishes, as well as an understanding of
competition and what is fair

I think the REAL question is why does govenment hate business,
PERIOD...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...32053742.shtml
NO ACTUALLY THE REAL QUESTION IS WHY TO DUMOCratS HATE BUSINESS.
Democrats don't hate businesses, they just view them as a revenue
stream to feed more socialist programs.


Too bad that's not true.

IS TOO.

Is NOT!

[what a high level debate this has turned out to be!]

Chill Out wrote:
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009 05:21:49 -0800, KHudson wrote for every to trash:

Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural Michigan, introduced a
bill to require Dish Network and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV
channels in all US markets. Stupak said that the current practice of
only carrying local channels for major population centers is unfair to
rural citizens. But Stupak seems to miss two important economic and
scientific factors against his wishes, as well as an understanding of
competition and what is fair

I think the REAL question is why does govenment hate business, PERIOD...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...32053742.shtml

Keith
http://www.eBuyHD.com

There is a problem with local channels in rural zones. If you live
outside the Phoenix area you can't get Phoenix stations or your local
station by satellite. The DTV conversion might help but if you only
have 4 local channels you might get ABC, CBS and NBC but you probably
won't get PBS, MyTv or CW. Which explains why the Ghost Whisper is
still on the air.

The very rural stations may be LP (low power) stations - it works for
them because there is not much interference - and the LP stations do
NOT Have to convert to digital at all!

On Feb 13, 8:21*am, KHudson wrote:
Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural Michigan, introduced a
bill to require Dish Network and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV
channels in all US markets. Stupak said that the current practice of
only carrying local channels for major population centers is unfair to
rural citizens. But Stupak seems to miss two important economic and
scientific factors against his wishes, as well as an understanding of
competition and what is fair

I think the REAL question is why does govenment hate business,
PERIOD...

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/200...32053742.shtml

Keithhttp://www.eBuyHD.com

"Government hate business"?? Business RUNS the government.

On Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:32:26 -0500, RickMerrill
wrote:

Roger (K8RI) wrote:
On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 13:27:09 -0500, Kimba W Lion
wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Yes but most of them are still going with February 17th date.
No, most are not. Plus, the FCC has to grant permission, on a case-by-case
basis, to any station wishing to shut down analog before June 12.

More than a third plan on changing on the 17th
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10161213-93.html

It's easy to get the FCC "permission": "My transmitter/antenna/studio
is broken!"


As to who asked how many TV stations satellite stations would have to
carry if they had to carry all local stations there are over 1600 TV
stations in the US. That's more than all the channels on DISH Network
and Direct TV combined.

Do any in that count of "local stations" include cable "public access"?

Thst's just OTA broacast, not cable.

"Earlier this week, Rep. Bart Stupak, from rural
Michigan, introduced a bill to require Dish Network
and DirecTV (SatTV) to carry local TV channels
in all US markets."

There already exist regulations requiring CABLE companies to carry local
TV channels, so the question should be, "Why does the government hate
CATV and satellite service providers?"

I disagree with your use of the word *hate*, but in essence what the
government is trying to do is prevent unfair competition. Cable
companies originally delivered the signals of *only* local stations.
Nobody signed up for cable service to receive only *premium*
programming. Today, however, the situation is different.

In order to make an educated decision of whether or not it is unfair
competition for cable and satellite providers not to provide local
station feeds, you should first read what the local stations have to
say.