examples of digital rip-off

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"James R" wrote in message
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The correct response to a post by "James R" is "**** off you tedious ****".
OTOH your dad does sound like a bit of a victim...

On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 08:37:59 -0000, "Agamemnon"
wrote:

My dad went and bought a universal remote control to replace the broken
remote on my sisters Virgin/NTL cable box

Cost of phone call to Virgin/NTL to request fix/replacement: £0.

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On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:16:19 +0000, Clive George wrote:

"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"James R" wrote in message
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The correct response to a post by "James R" is "**** off you tedious
****". OTOH your dad does sound like a bit of a victim...

Seconded. Twice.

You go to Comet to buy things when you know *exactly* what you want and
they are cheapest.

If you want advice, go to a shop with staff who know something.

In article , Agamemnon
scribeth thus

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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As part of the PARAS campaign we need to collect instances in which
vulnerable people have been ripped off as a result of the analogue
switch-off. These could be cases in which people have been conned into
buying an unneccessary aerial, buying a new TV rather than a set top box,
or subscribing to a pay-TV service in order to receive the basic channels.

If you have any examples of this sort of thing please post them here or
contact PARAS on the website. All incidents will remain completely
anonymous.

http://www.paras.org.uk/01-intro.shtml

Here's another one.

My dad went and bought a universal remote control to replace the broken
remote on my sisters Virgin/NTL cable box thinking because it said cable on
the packaging it would work with the box. The remote doesn't even have an
EPG/Guide button on it and has no codes whatsoever for either Virgin, NTL or
Samsung who make the Virgin/NTL box. Another ****ing digital rip-off. These
remotes should not be allowed to be sold or advertised in the UK as
replacements for cable TV in the UK unless they can full control all
Virgin/NTL boxes.


Is he or you capable to taking it back to from where he bought it?.

And..

If its a VM cable one why didn't he ask then for another one?...

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"Andy Dingley" wrote in message
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On 13 Feb, 01:16, "Bill Wright" wrote:
As part of the PARAS campaign we need to collect instances in which
vulnerable people have been ripped off as a result of the analogue
switch-off.

Parents became bored with their analogue TV about 3 years ago and
decided to replace it after a minor fault. Shop sold them a digital,
on the reasonable grounds that it would have a longer useful life.
OK, so £500 for the world's smallest flatscreen TV doesn't look such a
good deal today, but it wasn't out of line at the time.

They then discover that the reason the old TV had "failed" was
actually because the aerial had blown down (alu mast corroded) So they
call out an aerial installer. He tells them not that the mast has
failed and the antenna is OK, but that they need a whole new aerial
and downlead to be "digital compatible" and their new analogue /
digital set won't work otherwise. So he installs one. Presumably
because he's shifting old stock while he still can, this new aerial is
an _analogue_ antenna.

Really? It might have been an inappropriate group or size/weight,
but it wasn't an analogue one.

I suggest you start here before you are conned yourself.
http://www.paras.org.uk/02-myths.shtml



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Agamemnon wrote:
"James R" wrote in message
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"Agamemnon" wrote in message
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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As part of the PARAS campaign we need to collect instances
in which vulnerable people have been ripped off as a result
of the analogue switch-off. These could be cases in which
people have been conned into buying an unneccessary aerial,
buying a new TV rather than a set top box, or subscribing
to a pay-TV service in order to receive the basic channels.

If you have any examples of this sort of thing please post
them here or contact PARAS on the website. All incidents
will remain completely anonymous.

Ok. Add the incident I reported last year of my dad being
ripped of by Comet who sold him a SCART lead he didn't need
for a LCD TV with built-in Freeview.
Bill


That was nothing to do with it. That was some old fool who
AGREED to BUY a SCART lead when he did not require one to
connect to an external device. I remember his son moaning on
and on about how stupid his dad was, but in this case the
shop was NOT at fault. The man requested a lead, then agreed
to buy it. He wasn't conned in any way.

He requested nothing of the kind. He was conned into buying a
SCART lead he didn't need by the salesman..

Ignore him, he's usenet's version of a village idiot.

On 15 Feb, 11:01, "Adrian" wrote:

What do you mean by, an _analogue_ antenna?

Well to split hairs over it, a non-wideband antenna. Fair enough, this
isn't any more "analogue" than a wideband antenna is "digital", but if
you're being sold something you don't need, and a new sort of
something at that, then you do at least expect to have one of that
particular new sort supplied, as promised.

Andy Dingley wrote:
On 15 Feb, 11:01, "Adrian" wrote:

What do you mean by, an _analogue_ antenna?

Well to split hairs over it, a non-wideband antenna. Fair enough, this
isn't any more "analogue" than a wideband antenna is "digital", but if
you're being sold something you don't need, and a new sort of
something at that, then you do at least expect to have one of that
particular new sort supplied, as promised.

A grouped aerial is what is needed nearly every time, being sold a wideband
when it is unnecessary is being ripped off. It looks like you need to learn
more too.
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PCPaul wrote:
On Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:03:20 +0000, James R wrote:

"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
As part of the PARAS campaign we need to collect instances in which
vulnerable people have been ripped off as a result of the analogue
switch-off. These could be cases in which people have been conned into
buying an unneccessary aerial, buying a new TV rather than a set top
box, or subscribing to a pay-TV service in order to receive the basic
channels.

If you have any examples of this sort of thing please post them here or
contact PARAS on the website. All incidents will remain completely
anonymous.

http://www.paras.org.uk/01-intro.shtml

Bill

How about an aerial firm (very well known) trying to sell people aerials
they do not need? damaging existing installations in order to secure
and justify work not required? A company not able to name those they
accuse of poor work in fear of being sued?
You should look closer instead of spamming newsgroups with your
advertising rubbish for you and your friends.


Umm.. I'm sure all that does go on. However.


Disclaimer: I'm not connected with PARAS and don't have any industry
connections at all. This is the first I've seen of it. I just actually
RTFA'd.

I would second that. If James would take the time to actually read the
site, he would learn that what he just posted makes him look like a
complete muppet!


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John.

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"Adrian" wrote in message
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Andy Dingley wrote:
On 15 Feb, 11:01, "Adrian" wrote:

What do you mean by, an _analogue_ antenna?

Well to split hairs over it, a non-wideband antenna. Fair enough, this
isn't any more "analogue" than a wideband antenna is "digital", but if
you're being sold something you don't need, and a new sort of
something at that, then you do at least expect to have one of that
particular new sort supplied, as promised.

A grouped aerial is what is needed nearly every time, being sold a
wideband when it is unnecessary is being ripped off. It looks like you
need to learn more too.

And what if there are new digital multiplexes placed on the channels outside
the band the aerial was designed for after the spectrum is sold off? He'll
have to have yet another new aerial installed. Rip-off.