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Old February 12th 09, 05:11 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Naked Gonad
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?


My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category 2
is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just an
inferior one.
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Old February 12th 09, 06:15 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
The dog from that film you saw
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?


"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category 2 is
needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?





you've fallen for hype i'm afraid.
if your HDMI cable is working, it's working - you get the picture, as
perfect as it ever will be, or there's something wrong with it - breakup or
giant sparklies.
you won't get a slightly worse picture with a cheaper cable as you can with
analogue.



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Old February 12th 09, 07:42 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Naked Gonad
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?





you've fallen for hype i'm afraid.
if your HDMI cable is working, it's working - you get the picture, as
perfect as it ever will be, or there's something wrong with it - breakup
or giant sparklies.
you won't get a slightly worse picture with a cheaper cable as you can
with analogue.



Thanks,I had a hunch that it might be that,I'm glad I asked before
spending out needlessly.Thanks a lot.
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Old February 12th 09, 08:44 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Thumper
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:42:41 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?





you've fallen for hype i'm afraid.
if your HDMI cable is working, it's working - you get the picture, as
perfect as it ever will be, or there's something wrong with it - breakup
or giant sparklies.
you won't get a slightly worse picture with a cheaper cable as you can
with analogue.



Thanks,I had a hunch that it might be that,I'm glad I asked before
spending out needlessly.Thanks a lot.


Best Buy has a Monster HDMI cable prominently displayed in their
weekly ad for around $95. It's hard to believe that someone doesn't
feel just a little ashamed for trying to sell this.
Thumper
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Old February 12th 09, 08:57 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Naked Gonad
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

Thumper wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:42:41 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

The dog from that film you saw wrote:
"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...
My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?



you've fallen for hype i'm afraid.
if your HDMI cable is working, it's working - you get the picture, as
perfect as it ever will be, or there's something wrong with it - breakup
or giant sparklies.
you won't get a slightly worse picture with a cheaper cable as you can
with analogue.



Thanks,I had a hunch that it might be that,I'm glad I asked before
spending out needlessly.Thanks a lot.


Best Buy has a Monster HDMI cable prominently displayed in their
weekly ad for around $95. It's hard to believe that someone doesn't
feel just a little ashamed for trying to sell this.
Thumper


Blimey! I assume it is studded with diamonds and comes with a free tv? ;-)
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Old February 12th 09, 09:35 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
UCLAN
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category 2
is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just an
inferior one.


You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1 HDMI cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for 1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p. For 1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]
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Old February 12th 09, 10:03 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Naked Gonad
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

UCLAN wrote:
Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just an
inferior one.


You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1 HDMI
cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p. For
1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]


I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).
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Old February 13th 09, 01:44 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
Jer
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

Thumper wrote:
On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 18:42:41 +0000, Naked Gonad
wrote:

The dog from that film you saw wrote:
"Naked Gonad" wrote in message
...
My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?



you've fallen for hype i'm afraid.
if your HDMI cable is working, it's working - you get the picture, as
perfect as it ever will be, or there's something wrong with it - breakup
or giant sparklies.
you won't get a slightly worse picture with a cheaper cable as you can
with analogue.



Thanks,I had a hunch that it might be that,I'm glad I asked before
spending out needlessly.Thanks a lot.


Best Buy has a Monster HDMI cable prominently displayed in their
weekly ad for around $95. It's hard to believe that someone doesn't
feel just a little ashamed for trying to sell this.
Thumper



For $95, it prolly hasn't had all the oxygen sucked out of it.

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Old February 13th 09, 06:55 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
UCLAN
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Default HDMI and 100hz TV ?

Naked Gonad wrote:

My new TV is a 100hz model.
As I understand it,a category 1 cable has a max of 75hz,so a category
2 is needed.My HD progs seem fine but am I missing out on any definition
by using a cat1?
I'm not sure which type of cable I actually have,being as all it says is
HDMI.
If it were the wrong cable,would I not receive any signal or just an
inferior one.


You are confusing frame rate with data transfer rate. Category 1 HDMI
cables
have a DATA TRANSFER rate of 75 MHz (74.5 MHz), which is fine for
1080i/720p.
Category 2 cables are rated at 340 MHz, which is good up to 1600p. For
1080p
rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use a Category 2 cable.

HDMI cable categories have NOTHING to do with the monitor's refresh or
frame rate. [Beside which, Category 1's 75 MHz rate is *MUCH* higher than
the 100 Hz you quote. Read more carefully.]


I appreciate your replies but remember I need it in laymans language.
My tv states that it is 1080p.I noticed that you didn't include 1080p
using cat 1 cable in the data transfer rate.I don't know the difference
between 1080i and 1080p.So the bottom line is, can I assume that even
if I have a cat 1(which I don't know), will it be ok on 1080p (TV?
reception that is).


Please note above where I wrote: "For 1080p rates (Blu-ray, etc.), use
a Category 2 cable. That being said, a Category 1 cable *might* work
just fine at 340 MHz. It was only *tested* for 74.5 MHz, that's all.

As for TV reception, there are NO 1080p broadcasts in the U.S. (Don't know
about the UK.) Only a few DBS MPEG4 signals. Normally, no HDMI cable is used
for plain television reception. It's just your antenna and your TV. HDMI
cables are used to connect other devices - DVD/BD players, DVRs, etc. - to
your TV. If you want 1080p performance (100% of the time), use a Category 2
cable.
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Old February 13th 09, 07:28 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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For $95, it prolly hasn't had all the oxygen sucked out of it.

Watch the video:

http://www.cbc.ca/marketplace/packing_the_deal/

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