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  #31  
Old January 20th 09, 03:14 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Bartc wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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Bartc wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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On my new philips 32" lcd when we watch the digital channels the
picture is full screen but too tall. None of the options corrects
this, whereas, say, the picture from my dvd recorder etc can be easily
made to look the correct resolution, even and including the same
digital channels. it seems at times that the people onscreen have egg
shaped heads etc, it's pretty annoying.

I find any sort of aspect distortion incredibly annoying.

If a zoom needs to be applied then it must be the same in both hoz and
vertical.

Any other zooms that distort things so that a square appears wider or
narrower than it's height should be banned on TVs.

But most other people seem completely unbothered.

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well I was busy when that van dyke was on this afternoon but it
appears with black lines left and right and no settings can change
that, except to make it taller still.


If you mean 4:3 shown in the centre of a 16:9 display, I don't have a
problem with that; at least you're seeing all it is possible to see of the
original presentation. (Unlike, say, TCM on Virginmedia showing a 2.2:1
movie as letterbox inside a 4:3 frame with black bars top and bottom, which
is itself shown on the 16:9 display with black bars left and right, at the
lowest bitrate possible.)

What you want is a zoom control that does exactly that: magnifies the
picture so it fills the screen sideways, but also magnifies vertically so
that some picture detail is lost. The correct aspect will be maintained
however.

Either that or little curtains on your TV that adjust depending on whether
you're watching 16:9 or 4:3.

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heh, but the zoom is doing nothing to it. The exact same image through
my dvd recorder digital tuner fills the screen pretty much as it
should, as does the analogue BBC1

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  #32  
Old January 20th 09, 11:22 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default digital channels too tall

In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Can you see the Freeview test card on it ? :-


To get it you go to Ch105
Press yellow
Select any other channel eg. 1
Go back to 105
Press green


A status page is displayed which invites you to press green for the test
card.


This doesn't appear to work on my Toppy.

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Old January 20th 09, 03:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:

In article ,
Mark Carver wrote:
Can you see the Freeview test card on it ? :-


To get it you go to Ch105
Press yellow
Select any other channel eg. 1
Go back to 105
Press green


A status page is displayed which invites you to press green for the test
card.


This doesn't appear to work on my Toppy.

it doesn't seem to work on my dvd either, so I am assuming it's for
tvs with built in?

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Old January 20th 09, 05:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default digital channels too tall

In article ,
Paul Heslop wrote:

To get it you go to Ch105
Press yellow
Select any other channel eg. 1
Go back to 105
Press green


it doesn't seem to work on my dvd either, so I am assuming it's for
tvs with built in?


It works on my Panasonic DVD recorder.

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Old January 20th 09, 07:01 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Richard Tobin wrote:

In article ,
Paul Heslop wrote:

To get it you go to Ch105
Press yellow
Select any other channel eg. 1
Go back to 105
Press green


it doesn't seem to work on my dvd either, so I am assuming it's for
tvs with built in?


It works on my Panasonic DVD recorder.


mines the previous model to the present bunch, how old is yours? Plus,
do you have to wait til the on screen info etc has gone before
pressing the buttons?


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Old January 21st 09, 03:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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Agamemnon wrote:

"Paul Heslop" wrote in message
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On my new philips 32" lcd when we watch the digital channels the
picture is full screen but too tall. None of the options corrects
this, whereas, say, the picture from my dvd recorder etc can be easily
made to look the correct resolution, even and including the same
digital channels. it seems at times that the people onscreen have egg
shaped heads etc, it's pretty annoying.


Switch to 16:9 mode instead of Zoom.


like I said, I have tried all settings. I actually don;t like the
zooms etc, so I always have it set to widescreen. sometimes despite
this I even get an actual square box, that Dick Van Dyke prog does it.


Some programs are a 4:3 box in a 16:9 picture - happens with old pop videos
on some music channels.

Have you selected text when there isn't any.

Are you using a fully wired Scart?

Every channel which will accept settings is set to widescreen.

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Old January 21st 09, 09:17 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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"R. Mark Clayton" wrote:

Some programs are a 4:3 box in a 16:9 picture - happens with old pop videos
on some music channels.

yes

Have you selected text when there isn't any.


no


Are you using a fully wired Scart?


yes but we're talking about the internal digital tuner channels here.
the ones coming from external sources are fine.


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  #38  
Old January 21st 09, 10:15 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 21 Jan, 08:17, Paul Heslop wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote:
Some programs are a 4:3 box in a 16:9 picture - happens with old pop videos
on some music channels.


yes

Have you selected text when there isn't any.


no



Are you using a fully wired Scart?


yes but we're talking about the internal digital tuner channels here.
the ones coming from external sources are fine.


Sounds like a faulty tuner. Our 5403D works fine, so back to the
retailer it is.
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Old January 21st 09, 10:20 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul Heslop
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Dragonblaze wrote:

On 21 Jan, 08:17, Paul Heslop wrote:
"R. Mark Clayton" wrote:
Some programs are a 4:3 box in a 16:9 picture - happens with old pop videos
on some music channels.


yes

Have you selected text when there isn't any.


no



Are you using a fully wired Scart?


yes but we're talking about the internal digital tuner channels here.
the ones coming from external sources are fine.


Sounds like a faulty tuner. Our 5403D works fine, so back to the
retailer it is.


thanks. I've actually emailed philips via their website so I'll give
them a day or two to see what they say. I know littlewoods would
probably get funny with me anyway, they usually do, so maybe this is
the best way round.

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Old January 21st 09, 04:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Mon, 19 Jan 2009 20:49:35 +0000, Bartc wrote:
Either that or little curtains on your TV that adjust depending on
whether you're watching 16:9 or 4:3.


Did they not used to do that at the {picture palace | cinema | movie
theater} ?

I vaguely recall that when a film in extra wide format was about to
start, the curtains opened just that bit further to dramatize the effect.

 




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