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Old January 14th 09, 11:49 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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I am a Time Warner basic cable customer. I get about 80 channels (does
not include HD channels- no cable box required). Bought my son a brand
new flat-screen Sony HDTV. Screw in the coaxle cable, select
"autoprogram" and away it goes. It finds @ 80 analog channels and says
it found 5 digital channels. Start flipping channels and up comes
channel "25.1" and appears to in High Definition. I had never seen
this before on my HD ready Sony TV in the living room. As a matter of
fact, I have no way of keying "25.1" in on my living room remote.

What are these channels and why do I only get them on the new set?

Thanks.

Central Texas.

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Old January 15th 09, 01:51 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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I am a Time Warner basic cable customer. I get about 80 channels (does
not include HD channels- no cable box required). Bought my son a brand
new flat-screen Sony HDTV. Screw in the coaxle cable, select
"autoprogram" and away it goes. It finds @ 80 analog channels and says
it found 5 digital channels. Start flipping channels and up comes
channel "25.1" and appears to in High Definition. I had never seen
this before on my HD ready Sony TV in the living room. As a matter of
fact, I have no way of keying "25.1" in on my living room remote.

What are these channels and why do I only get them on the new set?

Thanks.

Central Texas.


Do you have 25-1 on the remote?

Is this the factory remote that came with the Sony TV?


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Old January 15th 09, 03:43 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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What are these channels and why do I only get them on the new set?

Thanks.

Central Texas.


What your son's TV is receiving is called the "clear QAM" channels.
These are digital channels that a TV can get without a cable box
provided the TV has a QAM tuner and provided that the channel is not
encrypted by the cable company. Usually these are the major networks
like CBS,NBC,FOX,ABC,CW,etc. You would most likely not be able to get
ESPNHD,CNNHD,etc because those channels are encrypted and require a
box.
Coincidentally, usually you can get the same major network's HD
channels over the air with a regular arial antenna provided the TV has
an "ATSC" tuner, which most TV's have sold today.

Now your SONY TV is "HD ready". This could mean that it can get HD
channels from an external source, like a box or dish via component
cables. It could be that your SONY does not have a QAM tuner. What is
the model # and how old is it?
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Old January 15th 09, 06:39 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Default HDTV 25.1 10.1 question

Mikepier wrote:

What your son's TV is receiving is called the "clear QAM" channels.
These are digital channels that a TV can get without a cable box
provided the TV has a QAM tuner and provided that the channel is not
encrypted by the cable company. Usually these are the major networks
like CBS,NBC,FOX,ABC,CW,etc. You would most likely not be able to get
ESPNHD,CNNHD,etc because those channels are encrypted and require a
box.
Coincidentally, usually you can get the same major network's HD
channels over the air with a regular arial antenna provided the TV has
an "ATSC" tuner, which most TV's have sold today.

Now your SONY TV is "HD ready". This could mean that it can get HD
channels from an external source, like a box or dish via component
cables. It could be that your SONY does not have a QAM tuner. What is
the model # and how old is it?


If that Sony's remote can't key in 27.1 (or 27-1), then it doesn't
support ATSC of any kind - be it QAM or 8VSB.
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Old January 15th 09, 11:13 AM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Key in channel 25 on the remote and then hit "up channel" and it should go
to 25.1
if the auto program remembered it.

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...
I am a Time Warner basic cable customer. I get about 80 channels (does
not include HD channels- no cable box required). Bought my son a brand
new flat-screen Sony HDTV. Screw in the coaxle cable, select
"autoprogram" and away it goes. It finds @ 80 analog channels and says
it found 5 digital channels. Start flipping channels and up comes
channel "25.1" and appears to in High Definition. I had never seen
this before on my HD ready Sony TV in the living room. As a matter of
fact, I have no way of keying "25.1" in on my living room remote.

What are these channels and why do I only get them on the new set?

Thanks.

Central Texas.



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Old January 15th 09, 03:59 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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Mikepier wrote:

What are these channels and why do I only get them on the new set?

Thanks.

Central Texas.


What your son's TV is receiving is called the "clear QAM" channels.
These are digital channels that a TV can get without a cable box
provided the TV has a QAM tuner and provided that the channel is not
encrypted by the cable company. Usually these are the major networks
like CBS,NBC,FOX,ABC,CW,etc. You would most likely not be able to get
ESPNHD,CNNHD,etc because those channels are encrypted and require a
box.
Coincidentally, usually you can get the same major network's HD
channels over the air with a regular arial antenna provided the TV has
an "ATSC" tuner, which most TV's have sold today.

Now your SONY TV is "HD ready". This could mean that it can get HD
channels from an external source, like a box or dish via component
cables. It could be that your SONY does not have a QAM tuner. What is
the model # and how old is it?


I have a 51-inch Sony bought in mid-2005, and I have a TiVo HD
(previously used my cable provider's HD DVR), so I *thought* it was
digital-ready. I was wrong. Bought my wife a nice 37-inch LCD and got
the QAM channels similar to what the OP describes, then did some reading
and found that my HD-ready Sony isn't actually digital-ready. So if I
didn't have cable/TiVo or something, I'd need a converter box for OTA
digital. But her set would be just fine.
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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Old January 15th 09, 06:40 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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On Jan 14, 11:35*pm, UCLAN wrote:
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They are called "Clear QAM" channels. If the other set's remote has no
provisions for keying in numbers like "25.1", then it doesn't have an
ATSC tuner. Model number?


Not entirely true. I have a Viewsonic HDTV from a few years ago. It
gets fine OTA ATSC reception, but (in a move bordering on the
completely idiotic), it has NO "." or "-" key. If I want to go to a
digital channel, I can either cycle through the favorite channels, or
I need to key in the analog channel immediately above or below the one
I want, and then use the Channel Up/Down keys. (My real suspicion is
that to save a few pennies, Viewsonic didn't make a new remote, but
kept using the remote from previous analog only TVs.)

Dan (Woj...)

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Old January 15th 09, 09:34 PM posted to alt.tv.tech.hdtv
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dmaster wrote:

They are called "Clear QAM" channels. If the other set's remote has no
provisions for keying in numbers like "25.1", then it doesn't have an
ATSC tuner. Model number?


Not entirely true. I have a Viewsonic HDTV from a few years ago. It
gets fine OTA ATSC reception, but (in a move bordering on the
completely idiotic), it has NO "." or "-" key. If I want to go to a
digital channel, I can either cycle through the favorite channels, or
I need to key in the analog channel immediately above or below the one
I want, and then use the Channel Up/Down keys. (My real suspicion is
that to save a few pennies, Viewsonic didn't make a new remote, but
kept using the remote from previous analog only TVs.)


Since I was answering a direct question about the OP's *Sony* TV, my
answer concerned his *Sony*. Being familiar with Sony, I can safely
say that your above scenario does not apply. Gee...I thought that
Viewsonic sold computer monitors. Figures...
 




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