BBC News report: extra second of time

"Woody" wrote in message
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"Mike O'Sullivan" wrote in message
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Jay wrote:
I see the BBC has got hold of the fact that to bring UK time in line
with
global timing, we are to have an extra second added to the end of the
year
tonight (New Years Eve). What a pity the BBC cannot seem to get its
own
ship in order when it comes to timing?. On Christmas Day 2008 the
'BBC One'
schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost
every
programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes.
Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal
to
time programmes these days!

Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the
BBC.



Actually it is nothing to do with the BBC.

Nobody said it was anything to do with the BBC. I just said that the BBC
had reported the story on BBC News. Who said anything about it being
anything to do with the BBC?

What is the BBC's fault is the lack of time keeping on its TV channels.

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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wrote:

What caused the delay ?.

The Queen would have gone out on time and someone else on another group
says
it was for the full 10 minutes, so did the news at 5.45 pm over run ?

AIUI the delay was mostly caused by Strictly Come Dancing Christmas
Special
overrunning. This programme was pre recorded on the afternoon of Monday
22nd
December, so why they couldn't edit it down to the allotted timeslot,

Probably for the same reason that no-one seemed to listen to the Ross's
recorded radio show that caused such an uproar a few weeks ago after it was
allowed to be broadcast.

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
I made my comments on this earlier, suffice to say, that if the recording
system worked on a unique ID on program content, rather than time, it
would
really not matter.

Brian


Come on Brian, if the BBC can't tell the bloody time, how are they gonna
work out ID codes?

Time is simple enough and if they can't get that right they are obviously
behind the door. Obviously some t*at at the BBC overlooked the overun of
Strictly Con Dancing.
I am sure I could have done a good enough edit of it myself to fit it into
the alloted time slot. So why didn't they do it? Had they shut up the edit
shop for Christmas?

The Big finger is pointing to 12 and the little finger is pointing to the
3... Oh it must be 9 o'clock!

On Wed, 31 Dec 2008 08:18:42 +0000, Mike O'Sullivan
wrote:

Absolutely agree. There is nothing that infuriates me more about the BBC.

Well, that's not too bad then!

The "Today" programme followed up (and rather trumped) that news at
8.30 this morning by giving a time-check that was 2 hours wrong.

Well, pdc was invented yonks ago, and has been said on here, it appears not
all the broadcasters will support it...Cannot think why...So iits not just
the bbc is it. Nobody is going to go overboard with a system unless everyone
supports it.

anyway, what are you all going to do with your extra second.

Brian

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"Jay" wrote in message
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
I made my comments on this earlier, suffice to say, that if the recording
system worked on a unique ID on program content, rather than time, it
would
really not matter.

Brian


Come on Brian, if the BBC can't tell the bloody time, how are they gonna
work out ID codes?

Time is simple enough and if they can't get that right they are obviously
behind the door. Obviously some t*at at the BBC overlooked the overun of
Strictly Con Dancing.
I am sure I could have done a good enough edit of it myself to fit it into
the alloted time slot. So why didn't they do it? Had they shut up the
edit
shop for Christmas?

The Big finger is pointing to 12 and the little finger is pointing to the
3... Oh it must be 9 o'clock!

Brian Gaff wrote:
Well, pdc was invented yonks ago, and has been said on here, it appears not
all the broadcasters will support it...Cannot think why...So iits not just
the bbc is it. Nobody is going to go overboard with a system unless everyone
supports it.

It's all a very long story:-

http://625.uk.com/pdc/index.htm



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Mark Carver wrote:
wrote:

What caused the delay ?.

The Queen would have gone out on time and someone else on another
group says
it was for the full 10 minutes, so did the news at 5.45 pm over run ?

AIUI the delay was mostly caused by Strictly Come Dancing Christmas
Special overrunning. This programme was pre recorded on the afternoon of
Monday 22nd December, so why they couldn't edit it down to the allotted
timeslot, when they had 72 hours to do so is puzzling. In fact even more
puzzling is this programme was repeated on the BBC HD channel on Sunday
evening, and ran for its originally allocated timeslot of 60 mins !

The BBC/Red Bee could have eased the situation by ditching all
subsequent trailers, to move the schedule back towards the original
timings. They didn't.
They even gave W&G a 35 second continuity announcement, FFS, just say "
And now, later than billed, Wallace and Grommet."

I'm afraid the whole sad state of affairs highlights the Beeb's attitude
that trailers and presentation are more important than the programmes
themselves. The apparent incomplete control of PDC, Freeview AR, and
Sky+ triggers displays technical incompetence, because those features
are supposed to safeguard situations like this, and whoever
*deliberately* scheduled the evening with those timings, just displayed
utter contempt for the viewer.

In short a total disgrace.



Some years ago, whilst still working for the BBC, I asked a Presentation
contact why a certain trail (The Cliffhanger one) hadn't been pulled.

He said they weren't allowed to overrule marketing decisions, and that
they had to follow what ads - sorry trails - had been listed.

Also, this particular trail had been queried by Pres with marketing who
said it should go out. I think it resulted in something like 288
complaints.

marketing still rule though.

Richard

In article ,
wrote:
On 31 Dec,
Laurence Payne wrote:


The "Today" programme followed up (and rather trumped) that news at
8.30 this morning by giving a time-check that was 2 hours wrong.

Jack Demaneu (SP?) lives on!

De Manio

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Jay wrote:

I see the BBC..........................On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC One'
schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every
programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes.
Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to
time programmes these days!

Luckily I pad my recordings off Freeview with -1 +10 on my PVR so I
didn't miss anything. But I was wondering, how on earth did they get
that late? Was there some massive news breaking on Christmas Day that
I was and remain unaware of, or did they suffer some hicup in playout
of an "unmissable" programme?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

"Phil Cook" wrote in message
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Jay wrote:

I see the BBC..........................On Christmas Day 2008 the 'BBC
One'
schedule ran 7 minutes 21 seconds late, which resulted in almost every
programme being recorded that night, missing the last 5 or 6 minutes.
Pathetic when you consider the technology they have at their disposal to
time programmes these days!

Luckily I pad my recordings off Freeview with -1 +10 on my PVR so I
didn't miss anything. But I was wondering, how on earth did they get
that late? Was there some massive news breaking on Christmas Day that
I was and remain unaware of, or did they suffer some hicup in playout
of an "unmissable" programme?
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"

The general consensus is that Strictly Come Dancing Christmas Special overan
its allocated time slot. Thus leaving everything else after it running by
about seven minutes late.