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Old December 24th 08, 07:52 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Woody wrote:
Go digging in www.tvlicencing.co.uk and you will find that the only time
you can use a B/W TV licence is either when you only have a B/W TV or
when you have a digital TV box but only a B/W TV on which to watch it.
Any other combination requires a colour licence - which is probably why
they never believe you if you say you have a B/W TV!


Having looked at it I can't find anything about using a VHS with a B&W TV.
Can't see why that should be any different from using a FreeView box.

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Old December 24th 08, 07:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Woody" wrote in message
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Go digging in www.tvlicencing.co.uk and you will find that the only time
you can use a B/W TV licence is either when you only have a B/W TV or when
you have a digital TV box but only a B/W TV on which to watch it. Any
other combination requires a colour licence --
Woody


No, that's not the full story, you need a licence to record off air even
if you don't have TV or monitor of any kind.
As, AFAICS, the type of TV licence you require is only defined in terms
of the display, I postulated earlier that where no display is present,
then a monochrome licence might suffice.
This would be important to a blind person using a PVR to record
programme streams but only requires audio playback.
It would help if I could find the definitive document on TV licensing
but
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/pdfs/40...om_of_Info.pdf
and
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/20040692.htm#9
don't appear to address any of the anomalies I can think of.

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Old December 24th 08, 11:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Wed, 24 Dec 2008 01:42:02 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

No it doesn't. If you have a VCR you can record colour programmes,
which you might take round to a house with a monitor and watch.


But a television which is being used solely to play back pre-recorded
material does not require a television receiving licence.


That's the point. That's why you need a licence to mke the recording.

Bill


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Old December 24th 08, 11:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 19:20:22 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

The Humax F2 Fox T has a UHF modulator and a row of well separated
buttons for on/off, up, down, and radio/TV.


And also with its front panel display of the LCN, it makes a great
Freeview *radio* receiver


As an experiment I just operated mine with my eyes shut. Mind you I might
not be typical. I can perform a wide variety of functions in complete
darkness.

Bill


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Old December 25th 08, 09:28 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Woody[_3_]
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"Graham." wrote in message
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"Woody" wrote in message
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Go digging in www.tvlicencing.co.uk and you will find that the only
time you can use a B/W TV licence is either when you only have a B/W
TV or when you have a digital TV box but only a B/W TV on which to
watch it. Any other combination requires a colour licence --
Woody


No, that's not the full story, you need a licence to record off air
even
if you don't have TV or monitor of any kind.
As, AFAICS, the type of TV licence you require is only defined in
terms
of the display, I postulated earlier that where no display is present,
then a monochrome licence might suffice.
This would be important to a blind person using a PVR to record
programme streams but only requires audio playback.
It would help if I could find the definitive document on TV licensing
but
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/pdfs/40...om_of_Info.pdf
and
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si2004/20040692.htm#9
don't appear to address any of the anomalies I can think of.

--
Graham.

%Profound_observation%


I suspect that the only answer to this one will be a test case to
establish precident.

In respect of the comments about watching pre-recorded material (i.e.
films from Blockbuster etc) only, if a monitor (as distinct from TV) was
being used, and the video player was a professional unit without a tuner
then by definition you don't need a licence as you have no means of
seeing off-air material. But otherwise the rule at present is, AFAICS,
that if any part of the chain is capable of recording a colour picture -
which includes a VCR or DVD or PVR - then you need a colour licence.
Tried getting tapes from Blockbuster recently........?


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Old December 25th 08, 11:24 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Woody wrote:

Tried getting tapes from Blockbuster recently........?


I know, the place is now full of all those 1990s technology SD-DVD discs !

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Old December 26th 08, 09:56 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Owain" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
As an experiment I just operated mine with my eyes shut. Mind you I might
not be typical. I can perform a wide variety of functions in complete
darkness.


Were you a sexually frustrated teenager during the early 1970s?


No, at that point I was shagging morning noon and night (before lectures, at
lunchtime, and after lectures). I was a sexually frustrated teenager in the
mid-1960s. Luckily I have a vivid imagination (I can conjure anything up at
will if I close my eyes) and by a mental amalgamation of the parts of Dusty
Springfield visible during her act and various images on postcards (brought
back from Egypt by the serviceman big brother of a friend) I was able to
have a tolerable sex life. I found it best not to close my eyes during maths
though.

Bill


 




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