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Old December 9th 08, 06:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Paul D.Smith
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

I am interested in using BBC iPlayer but I'm a paranoid git and don't want a
PC than can connect to the rest of the world on the same network as my home
PCs. So I was considering putting a firewall between the "iPlayer PC" and
the other PCs but the question is then...

Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored on the
iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the content
but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.

And clearly the only reason to do this is to get the hi-quality playback so
please, not suggestions to use the "live" feeds ;-).

Thanks,
Paul DS.

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Old December 9th 08, 07:20 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian C
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

Paul D.Smith wrote:

Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored on
the iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the
content but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.


Not possible. The "hiqh quality" download file will intentionally only
play back on the Windows Media machine that downloaded it.

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Old December 9th 08, 09:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

In article , Adrian C wrote:
Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored on
the iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the
content but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.


Not possible. The "hiqh quality" download file will intentionally only
play back on the Windows Media machine that downloaded it.


That seems a bit like only being able to read a book in the bookshop where
you bought it. Thank goodness old-tech still works as it always did.

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Old December 9th 08, 09:37 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes
In article , Adrian C wrote:
Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored on
the iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the
content but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.


Not possible. The "hiqh quality" download file will intentionally only
play back on the Windows Media machine that downloaded it.


That seems a bit like only being able to read a book in the bookshop where
you bought it. Thank goodness old-tech still works as it always did.

Unless I'm misunderstanding things, you want to download and save a BBC
iPlayer TV programme on one PC, and play it back on another? I have no
problem doing this. Download on this machine, transfer to wife's laptop
via CD / DVD / memory stick, and play it on DRM-enabled WMP11. Of
course, it still expires in the usual way.
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Old December 9th 08, 10:35 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
tim.....
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?


"Roderick Stewart" wrote in
message .myzen.co.uk...
In article , Adrian C wrote:
Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored
on
the iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the
content but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.


Not possible. The "hiqh quality" download file will intentionally only
play back on the Windows Media machine that downloaded it.


That seems a bit like only being able to read a book in the bookshop where
you bought it.


Actually it's the same as only being allowed to read the book in the library
that you borrowed it from

HTH

tim


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Old December 9th 08, 11:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

In article , Ian Jackson wrote:
Unless I'm misunderstanding things, you want to download and save a BBC
iPlayer TV programme on one PC, and play it back on another? I have no
problem doing this. Download on this machine, transfer to wife's laptop
via CD / DVD / memory stick, and play it on DRM-enabled WMP11. Of
course, it still expires in the usual way.


What demented mind invented the concept of technology that is deliberately
designed to stop working after a time limit, and only to work in a
restricted way while it does? Have we room for this nonsense in our world
of waste?

I have a copy of a book published in 1832 and with the beautiful
copperplate signature of one of my great^n grandmothers written in the
days before the railways, before electricity, before photography, and a
great many other things. It's still perfectly readable and hasn't
"expired" after more than a century and a half. I daresay I will expire
myself before it does.

Rod.
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Old December 9th 08, 11:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

In article , Tim..... wrote:
That seems a bit like only being able to read a book in the bookshop where
you bought it.


Actually it's the same as only being allowed to read the book in the library
that you borrowed it from


OK... but whichever it is, isn't technology supposed to enable us to do things
better? If not, what's the point of it?

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Old December 10th 08, 12:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian Jackson[_2_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

In message en.co.uk,
Roderick Stewart writes
In article , Ian Jackson wrote:
Unless I'm misunderstanding things, you want to download and save a BBC
iPlayer TV programme on one PC, and play it back on another? I have no
problem doing this. Download on this machine, transfer to wife's laptop
via CD / DVD / memory stick, and play it on DRM-enabled WMP11. Of
course, it still expires in the usual way.


What demented mind invented the concept of technology that is deliberately
designed to stop working after a time limit, and only to work in a
restricted way while it does? Have we room for this nonsense in our world
of waste?

I have a copy of a book published in 1832 and with the beautiful
copperplate signature of one of my great^n grandmothers written in the
days before the railways, before electricity, before photography, and a
great many other things. It's still perfectly readable and hasn't
"expired" after more than a century and a half. I daresay I will expire
myself before it does.

Rod.


iPlayer downloads were made to expire in order to set a challenge for
the hackers to come up with something to stop them expiring (which, I
believe, was done soon after the BBC started iPlayer).
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Old December 10th 08, 01:01 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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Default Digital Restriction Management

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 22:49:54 +0000, Roderick Stewart asked:

isn't technology supposed to enable us to do
things better? If not, what's the point of it?


It appears that you do not understand the philosophy
behind the ill-named Digital Rights Managment system (DRM),
or as Richard Stallman better calls it

Digital Restriction Management

http://www.youtube.COM/watch?v=8p9IU4zp7mU

Another reason why Open Source Software is preferable
to proprietary closed source software.
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Old December 10th 08, 09:18 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JR[_3_]
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Default BBC iPlayer behind a firewall?

Paul D.Smith wrote:
I am interested in using BBC iPlayer but I'm a paranoid git and don't
want a PC than can connect to the rest of the world on the same network
as my home PCs. So I was considering putting a firewall between the
"iPlayer PC" and the other PCs but the question is then...

Q/ Is there a way for one of my secure PCs to play the content stored on
the iPlayer PC? This would also be a way of using a laptop to play the
content but leaving a regular desktop connected for downloads.

And clearly the only reason to do this is to get the hi-quality playback
so please, not suggestions to use the "live" feeds ;-).

Thanks,
Paul DS.


If you are running Vista or Media Centre on the downloading PC then you
could run a Media Centre Extender to play the downloaded file (such as
an XBox360) on their own network.

However - it does seem you are being overly cautious, presumably you are
behind a router (firewall #1) and you could put another firewall on the
PC, providing you configure them correctly and update them and your
AV/Spyware software regularly then the chances of you getting 'hacked'
are minute (assuming you are not running Symantec).
 




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