Best Manufacturer for medium size LCD TV?

In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I also decided decades ago that Which reports were to be taken with
considerable doubt. For much the same reason as already quoted - that
when I had my own info on the items it generally conflicted with what
they said.

What usually happens is people base this on things they have a real
interest in - cameras, Hi-Fi, cars etc. And forget no two 'experts' will
agree about which is best anyway for these.

I've used Which for domestic appliances and never been disappointed. A
prime example was an upright 'Hoover'. I bought the recommendation - a
Panasonic - when Dysons had just come out and were all the rage. It's
never failed while the local tip is full of dead Dysons...

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In article , Dave Plowman (News)
scribeth thus
In article ,
tony sayer wrote:
Years ago when I used to work in the TV trade this was sometimes the
case that repetitive faults would happen all the time and the
manufacturers would never listen to feedback and do something about it
whereas the Jap's got it right first time...

I remember when PIL tubes came along - with poorer resolution and colour
than the previous delta gun types...


I was referring to overall -- reliability--.

Yes PIL tubes and red phosphors did leave a bit to be desired;!..
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Tony Sayer

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I also decided decades ago that Which reports were to be taken with
considerable doubt. For much the same reason as already quoted - that
when I had my own info on the items it generally conflicted with what
they said.

What usually happens is people base this on things they have a real
interest in - cameras, Hi-Fi, cars etc. And forget no two 'experts' will
agree about which is best anyway for these.

I've used Which for domestic appliances and never been disappointed. A
prime example was an upright 'Hoover'. I bought the recommendation - a
Panasonic - when Dysons had just come out and were all the rage. It's
never failed while the local tip is full of dead Dysons...


There are a coupls of thinsg that which occasioanlly gets right- their
paint tests, and some domestic appliance tests. - the reliability info
is not bad, although generally based on small sample sizes.

For a lot of other info they are pretty poor, and getting a lot worse
now that they've adopted a popular magazine type format where a lot of
products get a mention without any decent review. I gave up on which
when they gave a mnention to a B&Q barbecue unit, with built in mp3
speakers and said it would be useful... the basic idea just strikes me
as crap gimmick.

cheers

David

In article ,
charles wrote:

you must remember that Which? was in no small way responsible for the
demise of the UK tv set industry when it stated that Japanese sets were far
more reliable than UK ones. This resulted in virtualy no sales for GEC
sets

I think you are overestimating the circulation and influence of Which?
More likely it's just that it took more than an arrangement with a
Japanese company to overcome the (historically accurate) perception of
British goods as less reliable than Japanese ones. I might have made
the same choice even if I knew they came off the same production line:
there was still plenty of scope for GEC to bugger it up in some way.

-- Richard
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"Terry Casey" wrote in message
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(!) wrote:
"J G Miller" wrote in message
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On Fri, 28 Nov 2008 20:28:24 +0000, \(!\) asked:

Philips what..............

Koninklijke Philips Electronics N.V.

sorry Philips who then............

N. V. Philips Gloeilampenfabrieken, Eindhoven, The Netherlands .......
Terry


I've been to Eindhoven, i didn't know there was that much steel
and glass in the world!

Like Milton Keynes but 5 time the size, and the buses run on time

Steve Terry

Steve Terry wrote:
N. V. Philips Gloeilampenfabrieken, Eindhoven, The Netherlands .......
Terry


I've been to Eindhoven, i didn't know there was that much steel
and glass in the world!

Like Milton Keynes but 5 time the size, and the buses run on time

Steve Terry


Did you manage to find the Philips' museum? It's on an industrial state
reasonably close to the centre (but can be a bit awkward to find, as
it's not well signed).

I was surprised to find that it is free - appears to be independently
run by former Philips employees - and contains lots of stuff you've
forgotten ever existed (assuming you ever encountered it the first time
round!)

Anyone remember the Philips one-knob radio? They've got several - I'll
leave to others to describe them (assuming anybody else can remember one!)

Terry

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DM Proclaimed from the tallest tower:

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Jim Lesurf wrote:
I also decided decades ago that Which reports were to be taken with
considerable doubt. For much the same reason as already quoted -
that when I had my own info on the items it generally conflicted
with what they said.

What usually happens is people base this on things they have a real
interest in - cameras, Hi-Fi, cars etc. And forget no two 'experts'
will agree about which is best anyway for these.

I've used Which for domestic appliances and never been disappointed.
A prime example was an upright 'Hoover'. I bought the recommendation
- a Panasonic - when Dysons had just come out and were all the rage.
It's never failed while the local tip is full of dead Dysons...


There are a coupls of thinsg that which occasioanlly gets right- their
paint tests, and some domestic appliance tests. - the reliability info
is not bad, although generally based on small sample sizes.

For a lot of other info they are pretty poor, and getting a lot worse
now that they've adopted a popular magazine type format where a lot of
products get a mention without any decent review. I gave up on which
when they gave a mnention to a B&Q barbecue unit, with built in mp3
speakers and said it would be useful... the basic idea just strikes me
as crap gimmick.

cheers

David

OMG!!
A BBQ with a built in MP3 player!! That's exactly what I've been looking for
to make my Barbeques go with a swing.
Do you have any more details?? and was there one that included a child's
playground ride?

:-)




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