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Old November 21st 08, 08:29 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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I've got used to HD! For a while it was so wonderful, but now I'm blasé
about it.

When we first got a telly it was great having a picture to look at, but it
wasn't long before I took it for granted. It was the same with 625 line
TV -- at first it seemed fantastic, but after a while I stopped noticing it.
Then colour came along, and I'd watch anything if it was in colour. But of
course the novety faded. The next thing was digital TV, but that was a step
backwards rather than forwards, so it doesn't count. But HD came along and
it knocked my socks off. Fabulous! But now, if a programme's in HD I watch
it, and if it isn't I watch it. It isn't crucial whether it is or not. It's
the programme material that counts.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?

Bill


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Old November 21st 08, 09:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ivan[_2_]
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've got used to HD! For a while it was so wonderful, but now I'm blasé
about it.

When we first got a telly it was great having a picture to look at, but it
wasn't long before I took it for granted. It was the same with 625 line
TV -- at first it seemed fantastic, but after a while I stopped noticing
it. Then colour came along, and I'd watch anything if it was in colour.
But of course the novety faded. The next thing was digital TV, but that
was a step backwards rather than forwards, so it doesn't count. But HD
came along and it knocked my socks off. Fabulous! But now, if a
programme's in HD I watch it, and if it isn't I watch it. It isn't crucial
whether it is or not. It's the programme material that counts.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?

Bill


Despite having three large flat screen TVs, Freeview, Freesat, and Virgin
cable/broadband along with four PVRs, the overwhelming bulk of my media
intake is spent listening to the radio, in fact I'm listening to 'Any
Questions' now as I type this.

Also those long periods of insomnia spent switching between radio four, five
and talk sport!




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Old November 21st 08, 09:40 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Michael Chare
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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I've got used to HD! For a while it was so wonderful, but now I'm blasé
about it.

When we first got a telly it was great having a picture to look at, but it
wasn't long before I took it for granted. It was the same with 625 line
TV -- at first it seemed fantastic, but after a while I stopped noticing
it. Then colour came along, and I'd watch anything if it was in colour.
But of course the novety faded. The next thing was digital TV, but that
was a step backwards rather than forwards, so it doesn't count. But HD
came along and it knocked my socks off. Fabulous! But now, if a
programme's in HD I watch it, and if it isn't I watch it. It isn't crucial
whether it is or not. It's the programme material that counts.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?

Bill



I think that your happiest when you have the best available regardless of
what that is, and your choice of what to watch will be more based on
programme material rather than picture technology.

One other aspect that has improved is the quality of the broadcasters
cameras. This is very obvious when not so very old colour programmes are
shown,


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Old November 21st 08, 10:10 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Nov 21, 7:29*pm, "Bill Wright"
wrote:
I've got used to HD! For a while it was so wonderful, but now I'm blasé
about it.


The BBC HD Channel looks wonderful? It didn't on our LG set, but where
1080i content is concerned, it very much depends on how good your flat-
panel's deinterlacer is, as I've discussed on here before.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?


Personally speaking, my brain is much more sensitive to digital
artefacts - data compression, deinterlacing, rescaling, sampling and
resampling - than analogue ones, so yes, I'd have probably enjoyed
watching 405-lines at least as much as I do all current UK TV
transmissions.

I finally got to see some working 405-line sets in operation a few
weeks back, but they were showing a 625-line DVD via standards
convertor and modulator, so perhaps not the best example of system A's
capabilities
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Old November 21st 08, 10:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:29:30 +0000, Bill Wright wrote:

It's the programme material that counts.


Exactly -- and if the material is for example nature scenes
or sports, then that material is much better presented in
high definition, particularly on large screen displays.

Who wants to watch a soccer team playing on a billiard ball
looking pitch with lots of pixellation due to MPEG-2 compression
and low bandwidth?

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we
actually enjoy it less than we we do now?


Some genres such as comedy eg "Do Not Adjust Your Set" or dramas of
the type where less is more, eg early Dr Who, the original Les Rois
Maudits, do not necessarily need high definition or even color to be
enjoyed.
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Old November 21st 08, 10:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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J G Miller wrote:

Who wants to watch a soccer team playing


a question I have often pondered... ;-)

Some genres such as comedy eg "Do Not Adjust Your Set" or dramas of
the type where less is more, eg early Dr Who, the original Les Rois
Maudits, do not necessarily need high definition or even color to be
enjoyed.


You can still enjoy what you had before, but it is hard to go back to
something less good IME.

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Old November 21st 08, 11:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
...
I've got used to HD! For a while it was so wonderful, but now I'm blasé
about it.

When we first got a telly it was great having a picture to look at, but it
wasn't long before I took it for granted. It was the same with 625 line
TV -- at first it seemed fantastic, but after a while I stopped noticing

it.
Then colour came along, and I'd watch anything if it was in colour. But of
course the novety faded. The next thing was digital TV, but that was a

step
backwards rather than forwards, so it doesn't count. But HD came along and
it knocked my socks off. Fabulous! But now, if a programme's in HD I watch
it, and if it isn't I watch it. It isn't crucial whether it is or not.

It's
the programme material that counts.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?

Bill



If you enjoy cheap porn or itv's budget programs then no, I dont think we
would miss anything if it was brodcast in 405 monochrome..

If you enjoy watching Discovery type of programs showing flowers, bugs,
animals in the wild, or amazing landscapes then yes, you would miss HD..
The fact that people are willing to watch television shows on a IPOD
(OMFGWTFBBQ) tells me that people are happy going to portable "crap" instead
of good quality telly..

I dont watch UTube or download illegal DVD's cause the quality is forever
poor.. There is a point where you dont find yourself happy watching TV.. If
you went back to old broadcast standards on a 50" TV then it would probably
make you run away ;P


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Old November 21st 08, 11:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Roderick Stewart[_2_]
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In article , Bill Wright wrote:
But now, if a programme's in HD I watch
it, and if it isn't I watch it. It isn't crucial whether it is or not. It's
the programme material that counts.

If we were still watching black-and-white 405 line TV would we actually
enjoy it less than we we do now?


They still sometimes show old black and white films, mostly 4:3 with mono
sound, and some of them are very enjoyable. It depends mostly on the story and
the acting. As you say, it's the programme material that counts.

Rod.
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Old November 22nd 08, 12:07 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Arthur[_3_]
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John Rumm wrote:
You can still enjoy what you had before, but it is hard to go back to
something less good IME.


Absolutely, I worked with HD 10 years ago and SD always seemed soft at
the time but then I changed job and quickly forgot what I was missing.
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Old November 22nd 08, 02:15 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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In article ,
Bill Wright wrote:
But HD came along and
it knocked my socks off. Fabulous!


I've only got BBC and ITV HD and on the dramas I've watched there's little
difference.

Only thing that 'knocked my socks off' was Wimbledon. And perhaps the
Antiques Roadshow.

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