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Old August 3rd 04, 04:17 PM
Bruiser
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Default Difference between DTV and Digital TV

I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be confused with
Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could someone please clear this up
for me? Thanks.

Bruce


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Old August 3rd 04, 07:22 PM
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"Bruiser" wrote in
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I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be confused
with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could someone please
clear this up for me? Thanks.


Well there's the satellite company called DTV (which broadcasts digital
signals, some of which are picked up from digital sources, others from
analog) and there's digital TV, which is an on-the-air method of
broadcasting TV content that is replacing analog TV signals (NTSC in the
USA and Canada).

Digital television transmissions can squeeze about four channels of
standard definition TV into a single VHF or UHF channel or one high
definition channel. Digital TV also permits full surround-sound 5.1
channel audio to be sent with the pictures. With the right equipment a
whole lot of additional information can be included with the audio and
video. For example, you could watch a movie and choose either the main
audio feed or the director's comments!

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Old August 3rd 04, 07:22 PM
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"Bruiser" wrote in
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I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be confused
with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could someone please
clear this up for me? Thanks.


Well there's the satellite company called DTV (which broadcasts digital
signals, some of which are picked up from digital sources, others from
analog) and there's digital TV, which is an on-the-air method of
broadcasting TV content that is replacing analog TV signals (NTSC in the
USA and Canada).

Digital television transmissions can squeeze about four channels of
standard definition TV into a single VHF or UHF channel or one high
definition channel. Digital TV also permits full surround-sound 5.1
channel audio to be sent with the pictures. With the right equipment a
whole lot of additional information can be included with the audio and
video. For example, you could watch a movie and choose either the main
audio feed or the director's comments!

--
Dave Oldridge+
ICQ 1800667

A false witness is worse than no witness at all.

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Old August 3rd 04, 09:27 PM
Brad Houser
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"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be confused with
Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could someone please clear this

up
for me? Thanks.


I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite provider.
While it is using a digital stream to send video and audio, it has nothing
to do with the Digital TV standards. It should be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced Television
Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They created the standards
for the 18 different digital television formats:
http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could respond to
that specifically.

Brad Houser





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Old August 3rd 04, 09:27 PM
Brad Houser
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"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be confused with
Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could someone please clear this

up
for me? Thanks.


I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite provider.
While it is using a digital stream to send video and audio, it has nothing
to do with the Digital TV standards. It should be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced Television
Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They created the standards
for the 18 different digital television formats:
http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could respond to
that specifically.

Brad Houser





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Old August 4th 04, 02:06 AM
Bruiser
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Brad Houser wrote:
"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.


I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It should
be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
created the standards for the 18 different digital television
formats:

http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
respond to that specifically.

Brad Houser


Brad,

I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital TV, the
exact quote is:

"...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
(http://www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)

So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable reception, that
only refers to the way it is piped in, but the format remains the same? In
other words, on an HDTV set with the proper STB, would digital cable
reception look any different that regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or
look like high def, but would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my
service to a digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to receive local
station in high def, without having to do the entire upgrade to digital
cable)?

My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to increase
the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper audio, but that's
about it. Is this correct?

Bruce


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Old August 4th 04, 02:06 AM
Bruiser
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Brad Houser wrote:
"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.


I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It should
be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
created the standards for the 18 different digital television
formats:

http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
respond to that specifically.

Brad Houser


Brad,

I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital TV, the
exact quote is:

"...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
(http://www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)

So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable reception, that
only refers to the way it is piped in, but the format remains the same? In
other words, on an HDTV set with the proper STB, would digital cable
reception look any different that regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or
look like high def, but would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my
service to a digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to receive local
station in high def, without having to do the entire upgrade to digital
cable)?

My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to increase
the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper audio, but that's
about it. Is this correct?

Bruce


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Old August 4th 04, 02:31 AM
Dennis Mayer
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Bruiser wrote:

Brad Houser wrote:
"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.

I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It should
be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
created the standards for the 18 different digital television
formats:

http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
respond to that specifically.

Brad Houser


Brad,

I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital TV, the
exact quote is:

"...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
(http://www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)

So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable reception, that
only refers to the way it is piped in, but the format remains the same? In
other words, on an HDTV set with the proper STB, would digital cable
reception look any different that regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or
look like high def, but would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my
service to a digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to receive local
station in high def, without having to do the entire upgrade to digital
cable)?

My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to increase
the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper audio, but that's
about it. Is this correct?

Bruce


All Cable TV Programs, be they Analog, Digital, or Hi Def Digital

run thru the same cable but as Groups of channels at Different
Frequencies.

Do not buy the SD Digital Package... This does not guarantee a
Super

Picture ie: SD (Std Def). Purchase the Cable Analog package

plus the Hi Def package to get the best bang for the Cable Buck...

The Cable Hi Def 'QAM' Box may rent for $8/ month...
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Old August 4th 04, 02:31 AM
Dennis Mayer
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Bruiser wrote:

Brad Houser wrote:
"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.

I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It should
be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
created the standards for the 18 different digital television
formats:

http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
respond to that specifically.

Brad Houser


Brad,

I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital TV, the
exact quote is:

"...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
(http://www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)

So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable reception, that
only refers to the way it is piped in, but the format remains the same? In
other words, on an HDTV set with the proper STB, would digital cable
reception look any different that regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or
look like high def, but would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my
service to a digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to receive local
station in high def, without having to do the entire upgrade to digital
cable)?

My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to increase
the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper audio, but that's
about it. Is this correct?

Bruce


All Cable TV Programs, be they Analog, Digital, or Hi Def Digital

run thru the same cable but as Groups of channels at Different
Frequencies.

Do not buy the SD Digital Package... This does not guarantee a
Super

Picture ie: SD (Std Def). Purchase the Cable Analog package

plus the Hi Def package to get the best bang for the Cable Buck...

The Cable Hi Def 'QAM' Box may rent for $8/ month...
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Old August 4th 04, 02:57 AM
Bruiser
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Dennis Mayer wrote:
Bruiser wrote:

Brad Houser wrote:
"Bruiser" wrote in message
...
I've been reading on www.hdtvpub.com that DTV should not be
confused with Digital TV, but I can't find exactly why. Could
someone please clear this up for me? Thanks.

I don't think there is any confusion.

DTV is sometimes used as a shorthand for DirecTV, the satellite
provider. While it is using a digital stream to send video and
audio, it has nothing to do with the Digital TV standards. It
should
be obvious from the context.

DTV usually means Digital TV, as defined by the ATSC (Advanced
Television Systems Committee). www.atsc.org is their web. They
created the standards for the 18 different digital television
formats:


http://support.gateway.com/s/CsmrElt...984faq42.shtml

If you could quote where it says there is a difference, I could
respond to that specifically.

Brad Houser

Brad,

I did mis-speak: while HDTVPub.com does use "DTV" to mean Digital
TV, the exact quote is:

"...please remember that digital cable is not DTV..."
(http://www.hdtvpub.com/reception/dtvcablecompany.cfm)

So if my cable company (Adelphia) is offering digital cable
reception, that only refers to the way it is piped in, but the
format remains the same? In other words, on an HDTV set with the
proper STB, would digital cable reception look any different that
regular analog? I know it wouldn't be or look like high def, but
would there be any inherent benefit in upgrading my service to a
digital package if I didn't particularly care for the channel
lineup (Adelphia will rent me the STB for $9.95/mo in order to
receive local station in high def, without having to do the entire
upgrade to digital cable)?

My understanding is that digital cable allows the cable company to
increase the bandwidth and broadcast more channels with crisper
audio, but that's about it. Is this correct?

Bruce


All Cable TV Programs, be they Analog, Digital, or Hi Def Digital

run thru the same cable but as Groups of channels at Different
Frequencies.

Do not buy the SD Digital Package... This does not guarantee a
Super

Picture ie: SD (Std Def). Purchase the Cable Analog package

plus the Hi Def package to get the best bang for the Cable
Buck...

The Cable Hi Def 'QAM' Box may rent for $8/ month...



Thanks, that's what I needed to know (I believe Adelphia's HDTV basic
package is $9.95/mo. on top of the ~$42 I'm spending on the classic cable
package).

So, back to basics: digital cable is pretty much pointless, quality-wise.
Digital TV, however, is the means by which HDTV can be broadcast, although
most stations do not do that exclusively (with the exception of PBS, I
guess), correct? So any station ID'd as, for instance, "Kxxx-DT" will be
broadcasting in 480p, which will be upped to 720p (or 1080i) for HD
content?

Guess you can tell I'm pretty new to all this.



 




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