1080p broadcasts on Freesat or Freeview?

On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 09:58:44 +0000, Mark Carver
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Andy Burns wrote:
GTS wrote:

"John" wrote in message
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Is there any 1080p HD broadcasts on Freeview or Freesat, or is there
going
to be any channels using full HD in the near future?

Thanks

No and No
Only 1080p is from Blue Ray player or games console.

There is however 1080i on freesat, and will probably be 720p on freeview
in a couple of years (suitable STB/IDTV not yet available)

1080p (50 fps) of course consumes (everything else being equal) twice the
bandwidth of 1080i 50. However 1080p24 consumes about the same as 1080i50, and
it is this format used by many BluRay discs for movies. I can see no reason
why this could not be used on DVB-S for film channels, do any receivers
support it ?

maybe because when the IBU were showing comparisons of the 3 formats
(at IBC in amsterdam in 2007 when i saw it, but i suspect at earlier
shows as well) it was a bad compromise.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...in-europe.html

The EBU is sort of a broadcasters union for europe and at least gets
involved in testing before actually recommending......

In practice 1080i was noticably lower quality than 720p for the same
bandwidth use on the same source material (on the demo at the show
they had all 3 formats on large screens at the same time to allow
comparisons).

the conclusion was 720p should be the preferred format for "bandwidth
constrained" HD and 1080p for high bandwidth - which doesnt leave much
room for 1080i.
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Stephen wrote:

The EBU is sort of a broadcasters union for europe

Wonder where they got the name from :-P

Stephen wrote:


maybe because when the IBU were showing comparisons of the 3 formats
(at IBC in amsterdam in 2007 when i saw it, but i suspect at earlier
shows as well) it was a bad compromise.
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...in-europe.html

The EBU is sort of a broadcasters union for europe and at least gets
involved in testing before actually recommending......

In practice 1080i was noticably lower quality than 720p for the same
bandwidth use on the same source material (on the demo at the show
they had all 3 formats on large screens at the same time to allow
comparisons).

the conclusion was 720p should be the preferred format for "bandwidth
constrained" HD and 1080p for high bandwidth - which doesnt leave much
room for 1080i.

Yes, but *24*p is there for cinematic purposes only. In a broadcasting
environment it's ideal for transmitting 24 fps movies, isn't it, or do you
still prefer to see everything speeded up by 4% ?

How could 25/30/50/60 formats be better ? Horses for courses.


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"John" wrote in message
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Is there any 1080p HD broadcasts on Freeview or Freesat, or is there going
to be any channels using full HD in the near future?

Thanks

I suppose what I was really asking here is I am going to buy a new TV soon
and wondered if I should go for 1080, or just buy a 720 model. I will not
be using a games console, or playing blue ray discs. Its just for watching
freeview and freesat and possibly might be used to hook up a PC
occassionally. Would 720p do the job, or woud I be better getting a 1080
model? I am thinking a 37" or possibly 40" Samsung.

Thanks

John wrote:
"John" wrote in message
...
Is there any 1080p HD broadcasts on Freeview or Freesat, or is there going
to be any channels using full HD in the near future?

Thanks

I suppose what I was really asking here is I am going to buy a new TV soon
and wondered if I should go for 1080, or just buy a 720 model. I will not
be using a games console, or playing blue ray discs. Its just for watching
freeview and freesat and possibly might be used to hook up a PC
occassionally. Would 720p do the job, or woud I be better getting a 1080
model? I am thinking a 37" or possibly 40" Samsung.

Thanks



I'll be a little surprised if you *can* buy a 720 model. For reasons
that escape me they all seem to be 768.

And no, I don't believe it is so they can share the production lines
with computer monitors. Not at 37 inch.

Andy

On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 12:31:57 -0000, "John"
wrote:


"GTS" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
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Is there any 1080p HD broadcasts on Freeview or Freesat, or is there
going
to be any channels using full HD in the near future?

Thanks

No and No
Only 1080p is from Blue Ray player or games console.

What about if you hook a PC up the the TV and use it as a display monitor?
Would 1080 be an advantage then?

yes - i have a samsung 22" TV with 1080p - makes a really good
widescreen monitor (although not as flexible in input options as a
similar one i have which is a monitor only - only VGA computer input
on the TV).

Would a game console still work on a 720p? Would the picture be acceptable
to play games on 720p, or would it not work at all?

depends on the game.
A lot of PC games seem to need / work best with bigger screens, since
1024 lines has been a common spec for a long time.

having said that, i prefer strategy and simulators - YMMV.

Thanks


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"John" wrote in message
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"John" wrote in message
...
Is there any 1080p HD broadcasts on Freeview or Freesat, or is there
going
to be any channels using full HD in the near future?

Thanks

I suppose what I was really asking here is I am going to buy a new TV soon
and wondered if I should go for 1080, or just buy a 720 model. I will not
be using a games console, or playing blue ray discs. Its just for
watching
freeview and freesat and possibly might be used to hook up a PC
occassionally. Would 720p do the job, or woud I be better getting a 1080
model? I am thinking a 37" or possibly 40" Samsung.

Thanks



John Lewis had Panasonic 32" HD and Full HD sets next to each other. I
actually found it very difficult to tell the difference but I don't know
what the signal souce was.

The Full HD sets do tend to cost quite a bit more. I have always wanted to
have one myself.

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Michael Chare