Digital TV - information and interest

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7711531.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7698370.stm

Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.

SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers,
The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on
this traditional medium for their information would not really be too
aware of cable options.

And with both a suitably enabled digital box as well as a digital TV
and suitable analogue recording equipment it should be possible to
watch one show whilst recording one to disk and another to generic VCR
tape cassette. If it has a SCART, which seems to have escaped mention.

Similarly, how on earth will any generic analogue recording equipment
work with a digital-native TV set? And if it does work by way of a
SCART lead. I'm sure the BBC had up, and have since pulled, a slightly
misleading story at 09:30 this morning. But I now can't find it--
though the information I did find seems adequate for the jigsaw fan,
so who says traditional co-ordinative skills are on their way out!

Still, I did like the bit about how people in Whitehaven didn't
realise they were doing something wrong until all the cameras and
reporters showed up.

But the BBC is perhaps culpable for having a piecemeal approach with
no cohesive thread, kind of a "well it's covered somewhere, I remember
approving it a couple of months back" attitude. It's a big enough
change and a competitive enough sector that simply providing complete
and comprehensive information merely is informing the public.

But again, I have the internet so I know what's up there; those who
don't will not and are similarly likely to be unable to access BBCi
information despite severe mental dysfunction is about the only way
even a casual viewer could be unaware of this new teletext system.

Given how much junk pap goes out through the Royal Mail and by way of
the traditional print media is a well-prepared 2-colour gatefold
"state-of-the-stations" missive every six months out with every paper
- local, regional, national, paid-for or free - really not a suitable
solution? Is it not somehow broadcasting?

And more to the point isn't it how the old radio switchover in the
late 1970s worked without a hitch? The fact that FM was the same, warm
rosy mixdown at the engineers' decks as the previous VHF by a
different name and clarification on how both the standard for
measuring the scale on the dial and its carrier amplitudes were
changing in the new wave of life for this pop-picker medium--some of
the stations really were moving to a new home!

Let's face it though, it's perhaps not any kind of an area of public
information where we want the newspapers doing the overseers' - and
BBC's - job in their own names.

After all they along with the sensationalist rolling news channels
reported only one side of the workplace qualifications route to
academic brilliance in the new year and only now are getting round to
covering the worthwhile aspects of on-the-job education--not something
one would hope a promising 16 year old new starting staff member would
need, and not something really an underperforming teenager could be
expected to want or make the most of.

But it remains, if I was just watching BBC BREAKFAST on analogue this
morning, well, I would be confused.

G DAEB
COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON
--

On Nov 6, 11:02*am, FCS wrote:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/...nd/7698370.stm

Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.

SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers,
The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on
this traditional medium for their information would not really be too
aware of cable options.

And with both a suitably enabled digital box as well as a digital TV
and suitable analogue recording equipment it should be possible to
watch one show whilst recording one to disk and another to generic VCR
tape cassette. If it has a SCART, which seems to have escaped mention.

Similarly, how on earth will any generic analogue recording equipment
work with a digital-native TV set? And if it does work by way of a
SCART lead. I'm sure the BBC had up, and have since pulled, a slightly
misleading story at 09:30 this morning. But I now can't find it--
though the information I did find seems adequate for the jigsaw fan,
so who says traditional co-ordinative skills are on their way out!

Still, I did like the bit about how people in Whitehaven didn't
realise they were doing something wrong until all the cameras and
reporters showed up.

But the BBC is perhaps culpable for having a piecemeal approach with
no cohesive thread, kind of a "well it's covered somewhere, I remember
approving it a couple of months back" attitude. It's a big enough
change and a competitive enough sector that simply providing complete
and comprehensive information merely is informing the public.

But again, I have the internet so I know what's up there; those who
don't will not and are similarly likely to be unable to access BBCi
information despite severe mental dysfunction is about the only way
even a casual viewer could be unaware of this new teletext system.

Given how much junk pap goes out through the Royal Mail and by way of
the traditional print media is a well-prepared 2-colour gatefold
"state-of-the-stations" missive every six months out with every paper
- local, regional, national, paid-for or free - really not a suitable
solution? Is it not somehow broadcasting?

And more to the point isn't it how the old radio switchover in the
late 1970s worked without a hitch? The fact that FM was the same, warm
rosy mixdown at the engineers' decks as the previous VHF by a
different name and clarification on how both the standard for
measuring the scale on the dial and its carrier amplitudes were
changing in the new wave of life for this pop-picker medium--some of
the stations really were moving to a new home!

Let's face it though, it's perhaps not any kind of an area of public
information where we want the newspapers doing the overseers' - and
BBC's - job in their own names.

After all they along with the sensationalist rolling news channels
reported only one side of the workplace qualifications route to
academic brilliance in the new year and only now are getting round to
covering the worthwhile aspects of on-the-job education--not something
one would hope a promising 16 year old new starting staff member would
need, and not something really an underperforming teenager could be
expected to want or make the most of.

But it remains, if I was just watching BBC BREAKFAST on analogue this
morning, well, I would be confused.

G DAEB
COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON
--


I just spent £200 on a television for the bedroom, the Samsung
LE19R88, as it was advertised by Dixons as 'all you'll ever need'. But
it isn't.

It is advertised with the 'digital tick', so I wrongly assumed that
all the functions of this TV will work when analogue broadcasts are
switched off. This is simply not the case.

One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows
me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be
set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable
after the digital switchover!

This 'digital tick' clearly means nothing more than 'can receive
digital broadcasts', and is no guard, let alone a guarantee, against
built-in obsolescence!

uk.media.tv.misc
FCS
Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST)


Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.


Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they
cant watch them without buying another freeview box .


--
www.cannabisaware.co.uk

One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows
me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be
set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable
after the digital switchover!







I am already depressed. The idea of waking up to TV news, especially the
BBC's breakfast news could not inspire me less.

On Nov 6, 11:22*am, Sir Krustov wrote:
uk.media.tv.misc
FCS
Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST)


Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.

Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they
cant watch them without buying another freeview box .

--www.cannabisaware.co.uk

Indeed. All those people that bought TVs with "HD READY" plastered all
over the screen in the shop might have a good case with the OFT.

In article ,
Sir Krustov wrote:
uk.media.tv.misc
FCS
Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST)


Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.


Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they
cant watch them without buying another freeview box .

You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones?

--
*The older you get, the better you realize you were.

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article ,
Sir Krustov wrote:
uk.media.tv.misc
FCS
Thu, 6 Nov 2008 03:02:34 -0800 (PST)


Wow. I'm glad I'm internet-enabled. I'd be quite confused otherwise
where the public information side of digital is concerned.


Just wait until the freeview HD channels appear and people realise they
cant watch them without buying another freeview box .

You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD ones?


I didn't know Mike had a brother!

On Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 03:02:34h -0800, FCS wrote:
SKY seem to have an inside track where their own stable of newspapers,
The News Corporation, is concerned and, as such, anyone reliant on
this traditional medium for their information would not really be too
aware of cable options.

As far as the mouthpiece of Murdoch journals are concerned, everybody
should be signing up to B$kyB. I am sure you must have noticed how
these newspapers frequently publish articles which are supposedly news
but are nothing more than vehicles for promoting the Murdoch empire.

Why on earth do you think The Times did a full page color article on the
release of The Simpsons Movie, for example?

COPYRIGHT (C) 2008 SIPSTON

Is this supposed to indicate that one is not supposed to quote your text?

On Thursday, November 6th, 2008 at 13:57:06h +0000,
Dave Plowman (News) asked:

You're assuming the HD channels will show different progs from the SD
ones?

Are you assuming that the cleared PSB-3 multiplex will only be carrying
HD stations? ;+)

The point is that the new multiplex will only be receivable with a
DVB-t2 tuner, regardless of whether the stations are HD or not.

On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 11:29:04 -0000, "Light of Aria"
wrote:



One of the reasons I chose this model is the alarm timer, which allows
me to wake up to the television news. However, the alarm can only be
set to come on an analogue channel, rendering it totally unuseable
after the digital switchover!







I am already depressed. The idea of waking up to TV news, especially the
BBC's breakfast news could not inspire me less.

So THAT'S why I feel so **** when I wake up in the morning.


Marky P.