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Old October 30th 08, 10:27 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?
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Old October 30th 08, 10:35 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Well, there should not be that much difference, indeed, I'd have expected it
the other way around. Maybe there is more here than just an aerial and a
downlead? How near the transmitters are you and which one?

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"Broadback" wrote in message
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Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference in
aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?



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Old October 30th 08, 10:38 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article ,
Broadback wrote:
Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?


Does he live in Whitehaven?
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Old October 30th 08, 11:14 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Broadback" wrote in message
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Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference in
aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?


Moved to somewhere where there's no analogue?
Tried re-tuning the analogue set?
Checked the flylead?

Bill


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Old October 30th 08, 12:58 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:27:23 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?


Has your son tried retuning his analogue TV? (Assuming of course that
you've moved from a different area)
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Old October 30th 08, 03:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Petert wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:27:23 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?


Has your son tried retuning his analogue TV? (Assuming of course that
you've moved from a different area)

He has moved about 10 miles, from Newcastle under Lyme to North of
Stone. He may now be receiving on a different transmitter, though in
either case analogue is still on. He gets a sort of picture on analogue,
though so poor a signal that it is not watchable. He is using the same
down lead. I was wondering if the builders put some sort of amplifier in
that only works on digital, though I have not heard of one. It puzzles me.
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Old October 30th 08, 08:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:57:00 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Petert wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:27:23 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV. However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?


Has your son tried retuning his analogue TV? (Assuming of course that
you've moved from a different area)

He has moved about 10 miles, from Newcastle under Lyme to North of
Stone. He may now be receiving on a different transmitter, though in
either case analogue is still on. He gets a sort of picture on analogue,
though so poor a signal that it is not watchable. He is using the same
down lead. I was wondering if the builders put some sort of amplifier in
that only works on digital, though I have not heard of one. It puzzles me.


if he is now receiving his signal from a different transmitter all
that may be required is a re-tune of his set. has he tried doing that?
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Old October 31st 08, 10:12 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Yeah, many of the old analogue so called autotuneer systems get confused and
tend to stop on the first recognisable signal, which may not be the best
one. I'd imagine the fact that the digital signals are there might confuse
it but not to the extent that pressing continue or whatever they call it on
his tv would not eventually find the stronger signals. Of course, asking
some local people which analogue channels they are using might help... or
hinder!

Brian

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"Petert" wrote in message
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On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 14:57:00 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Petert wrote:
On Thu, 30 Oct 2008 09:27:23 +0000, Broadback
wrote:

Having moved into a fairly new (2 years old) detached house my son
found
that the aerial socket provided did now work in his analogue TV.
However
it is fine in the digital tv. As I understood there was no difference
in aerials for analogue or digital can anyone explain this please?

Has your son tried retuning his analogue TV? (Assuming of course that
you've moved from a different area)

He has moved about 10 miles, from Newcastle under Lyme to North of
Stone. He may now be receiving on a different transmitter, though in
either case analogue is still on. He gets a sort of picture on analogue,
though so poor a signal that it is not watchable. He is using the same
down lead. I was wondering if the builders put some sort of amplifier in
that only works on digital, though I have not heard of one. It puzzles me.


if he is now receiving his signal from a different transmitter all
that may be required is a re-tune of his set. has he tried doing that?
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Cheers

Peter



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Old October 31st 08, 09:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Yeah, many of the old analogue so called autotuneer systems get confused
and
tend to stop on the first recognisable signal, which may not be the best
one. I'd imagine the fact that the digital signals are there might confuse
it but not to the extent that pressing continue or whatever they call it
on his tv would not eventually find the stronger signals. Of course,
asking some local people which analogue channels they are using might
help... or hinder!



The digital MUXs just get ignored by auto-tune, there is no
carrier (in the conventional sense) for the PLL to lock on to.

To the human eye, the MUX is easy to miss, it just looks looks
like a slight increase in the noise as you tune through it.

When there is a digital MUX co-channel with an analogue
signal the analogue picture has a snow effect almost identical
as that of a very weak signal, I have been fooled by that
one on more than one occasion.

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