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Old October 25th 08, 05:32 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JOHN PORCELLA
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What is so tricky?


Presumably they have very little experience of this type of work.
It is not that difficult, but it would take extra effort.

'What Satellite' lists installers.


Thanks.


If there is a cable from your flat(?) that goes directly to the roof without
any intervening equipment, you might be able to make your own arrangements.
You could ask the Council what would be allowed.


At the moment, I have my own CT125 cable running from my apartment to
the roof (a run of between 80 and 100 metres). It runs along the
communal corridor then up about fifteen dry-riser rooms and then to my
TV and DAB aerials on the roof. I suspect that if if asked and got
permission to do something private and personal to me, I would have to
use another cable?

John



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Old October 25th 08, 05:36 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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I'm installing about 5 a week at the moment and it's not hard. If the
motor or mount is set correctly, it should only take minutes to set...


Glenn,

I cannot see why it would be hard in my circumstance as the roof is
easily accessible i.e. no need for ladders and not at all dangerous as
there is a twelve foot retaining wall.

What is the biggest dish size that you have installed?

'What Satellite' reckons that in London a 1.2 metre dish would be
needed for Nilesat, whereas a website selling Nilesat cards reckoned
1.8m!!

One difficulty might be the need to amplify the signal at some point
due to the run length.

John

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Old October 25th 08, 05:38 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
JOHN PORCELLA
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You need to know what you are doing.


As with most things technical, I imagine!


*Also working at height directive.

Not really an issue, even at the top of this 21 storey building, as
there is a retaining wall.


It can be done. *I set up my 1.2m steerable dish "right first time" in 1996,
but it many satellite fitters are rubbish.-


That is really worrying!

John

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Old October 25th 08, 07:11 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"JOHN PORCELLA" wrote in message
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Also working at height directive.


Not really an issue, even at the top of this 21 storey building, as
there is a retaining wall.


Common sense doesn't come into it. Even on huge flat roofs with ten foot
walls all round the rules still apply.


It can be done. I set up my 1.2m steerable dish "right first time" in
1996,
but it many satellite fitters are rubbish.-


That is really worrying!


The main problem you are going to have on a 21 storey building is wind
damage. The wind up there is incredible. If you were on the roof on a windy
day you would be completely unable to prevent yourself being blown over the
edge. I'm not exagerating. Until you've been up there you can't imagine how
strong the wind is compared with that at ground level. I've seen several
good strong dishes ripped off the wall. On the most recent occasion a 1.5m
dish and its very heavy mount disappeared, never to be found. All that was
left was the steel baseplate, still bolted to the wall. Any normal cheap
domestic-type 1.5m dish will have a very short life up there. Sometimes it's
possible to find a sheltered location on the roof, so that might help.

Bill


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Old October 25th 08, 07:24 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Bill Wright wrote:
On the most recent occasion a 1.5m
dish and its very heavy mount disappeared, never to be found. All that was
left was the steel baseplate, still bolted to the wall.


Only if you had peered over the edge of the parapet and whaayyyy down
you will probably have found the dish, the mount, LNB and the scrote
still hanging on to both....

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Old October 25th 08, 07:39 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Adrian C" wrote in message
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Bill Wright wrote:
On the most recent occasion a 1.5m
dish and its very heavy mount disappeared, never to be found. All that
was left was the steel baseplate, still bolted to the wall.


Only if you had peered over the edge of the parapet and whaayyyy down you
will probably have found the dish, the mount, LNB and the scrote still
hanging on to both....


Conducted a serious search, but never found it.

Bill


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Old October 25th 08, 09:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Glenn Millar - TV Aerials
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JOHN PORCELLA wrote:
You need to know what you are doing.


As with most things technical, I imagine!


Also working at height directive.

Not really an issue, even at the top of this 21 storey building, as
there is a retaining wall.

It can be done. I set up my 1.2m steerable dish "right first time" in 1996,
but it many satellite fitters are rubbish.-


That is really worrying!

John

Did an install yesterday for a motorised dish. Apparently I wasn't, and
didn't think I was, the cheapest. I also was not the most expensive
either. Most of the other installers the customer had contacted had made
it clear that it takes a lot of time to set the dish correctly. One
installer expressed his extreme dislike to motorised installs. It
appears I was the only one who was just more than happy to install.

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Old October 26th 08, 02:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
R. Mark Clayton
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"JOHN PORCELLA" wrote in message
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You need to know what you are doing.


As with most things technical, I imagine!


Also working at height directive.

Not really an issue, even at the top of this 21 storey building, as
there is a retaining wall.


It can be done. I set up my 1.2m steerable dish "right first time" in
1996,
but it many satellite fitters are rubbish.-


That is really worrying!

John


The real issue is that you can't really share a motorised dish, as who
decides where it is pointing, you can however share a torroidal dish
pointing at say four satellites (28E, 19E, 13E and say 16E)

see www.wavefrontier.com

four off quatto LNB's, and then distribute through a common system - an EMP
MS17/26PIU-6 will do up 26 flats, see http://www.emp-centauri.cz/

This will give each flat access to all of four satellites at any time. For
dumb $ky boxes that think they are the only game in town (on purpose!) make
sure that 28E is the first satellite.

but 21 stories (and say 100 flats) you will need a lot more splits etc.
However the overall cost per flat should be less than individual dishes,
even if this were possible.


 




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