C5 confirmed move to BBC B Mux

It seems that C5 will appear (as expected) on BBC Mux B from Selkirk, when
that switches over to the new 64QAM high power DTT services next month

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...hannelfive-bbc

I assume it will stay put on the low power Mux A at the other Tx sites, until
they undergo DSO one at a time. There's no room for it on the low power
existing Mux B that's at 16 QAM anyway.

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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:28:26 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
It seems that C5 will appear (as expected) on BBC Mux B from Selkirk,
when that switches over to the new 64QAM high power DTT services next
month

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...hannelfive-bbc

Note that the Media Grauniad article carefully fails to mention when this
deal between the BBC and five was actually signed.

"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:28:26 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
It seems that C5 will appear (as expected) on BBC Mux B from Selkirk,
when that switches over to the new 64QAM high power DTT services next
month

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...hannelfive-bbc

Note that the Media Grauniad article carefully fails to mention when this
deal between the BBC and five was actually signed.

C5 will hopefully join Freesat around then as well!

Commander Gideon wrote:
"J G Miller" wrote in message ...
On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:28:26 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
It seems that C5 will appear (as expected) on BBC Mux B from Selkirk,
when that switches over to the new 64QAM high power DTT services next
month

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...hannelfive-bbc

Note that the Media Grauniad article carefully fails to mention when this
deal between the BBC and five was actually signed.

C5 will hopefully join Freesat around then as well!

That's the line that both C5's duty office, and Freesat themselves keep
peddling, but it's got to move to Astra 2D to do that, and I don't see any
space for it there currently ?



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On Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 at 17:16:51h +0100, Mark Carver pondered:
it's got to move to Astra 2D to do that, and I don't see
any space for it there currently ?

Once ITV plc have "let go" (viz fired) all those regional journalists
and consolidated their regional celebrity news shows into oversized
non-geographically and non-culturally significant mega-regions,
all in the name of cost cutting and profit boosting (despite
the fact that Border Television is actually operating at a profit),
will ITV plc be reducing the number of transmissions on Astra 2D?

After all, that is one of the reasons for cutting back on regional
variations is it not, so that they can reduce ITV-1 to eventually
just a national England and Wales service with maybe 5 minutes of
news headlines from ITN (similar to `five') at 18:00h and 22:00h in
between the commercials?

J G Miller wrote:
On Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008 at 17:16:51h +0100, Mark Carver pondered:
it's got to move to Astra 2D to do that, and I don't see
any space for it there currently ?

Once ITV plc have "let go" (viz fired) all those regional journalists
and consolidated their regional celebrity news shows into oversized
non-geographically and non-culturally significant mega-regions,
all in the name of cost cutting and profit boosting (despite
the fact that Border Television is actually operating at a profit),
will ITV plc be reducing the number of transmissions on Astra 2D?

After all, that is one of the reasons for cutting back on regional
variations is it not, so that they can reduce ITV-1 to eventually
just a national England and Wales service with maybe 5 minutes of
news headlines from ITN (similar to `five') at 18:00h and 22:00h in
between the commercials?

Judging by the amount of local businesses that advertise during peak time on
ITV Thames Valley-South (aka ITV-1 Hannington) I reckon the sub regions are
here to stay for advertising, even after they have fully buried sub regional
programming.

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On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:28:34 +0100, Mark Carver postulated:

Judging by the amount of local businesses that advertise during peak
time on ITV Thames Valley-South (aka ITV-1 Hannington) I reckon the
sub regions are here to stay for advertising, even after they have
fully buried sub regional programming.

On terrestrial transmissions no doubt they will remain as long as it
is profitable, but is there a need on satellite?

And even if there is, since the programming will remain the same, these
could then be encrypted and move to Astra 2B, where Anglia West, Central
South West, Tyne Tees South, and Yorkshire East have already been shunted
into obscurity.

Of course, this would mean that the bill for encryption starts to rise
again.

But is it not a long term strategic aim of ITV plc to greatly reduce
the number of their satellite streams and hence the operational costs?

Has there been any further news on the possible takeover of ITV plc and
its transformation to RTL Großbritannien?

J G Miller wrote:
On Wed, 22 Oct 2008 22:28:34 +0100, Mark Carver postulated:

Judging by the amount of local businesses that advertise during peak
time on ITV Thames Valley-South (aka ITV-1 Hannington) I reckon the
sub regions are here to stay for advertising, even after they have
fully buried sub regional programming.

On terrestrial transmissions no doubt they will remain as long as it
is profitable, but is there a need on satellite?

I suppose it depends on what share of viewing ITV end up with via satellite.

And even if there is, since the programming will remain the same, these
could then be encrypted and move to Astra 2B, where Anglia West, Central
South West, Tyne Tees South, and Yorkshire East have already been shunted
into obscurity.

And Thames Valley-South (aka Meridian North), and because of that round here
the Freesat EPG mapping gives us Thames Valley-North (aka Central South aka
Oxford) so we end up with the correct news, but the wrong non-news regional
programming. It will all be academic soon.


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Commander Gideon wrote:
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On Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:28:26 +0100, Mark Carver wrote:
It seems that C5 will appear (as expected) on BBC Mux B from
Selkirk,
when that switches over to the new 64QAM high power DTT services
next
month

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2008...hannelfive-bbc

Note that the Media Grauniad article carefully fails to mention when
this
deal between the BBC and five was actually signed.

C5 will hopefully join Freesat around then as well!

That's the line that both C5's duty office, and Freesat themselves keep
peddling, but it's got to move to Astra 2D to do that, and I don't see any
space for it there currently ?



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Since ITV is killing off so many different regional feeds, space will open.

mr deo wrote:

Since ITV is killing off so many different regional feeds, space will open.

No, it *might* not. Read my other post. Commercials.

One advantage ITV does have over other broadcasters is that it can (and
does) offer very locally targeted adverts. As I've said, I see more and
more of these in peak time in my area, so *perhaps* it might remain
economically viable to retain the present 25 or so advertising sub
regions, after any sub regional programming has vanished.

It really depends on how many people end up viewing ITV delivered by
satellite.

Also note that both Anglia and Meridian since March 2004 have had more
advertising sub-regions than news,

Anglia 2 News, 3 Ads
Meridian 3 News, 4 Ads