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Old October 19th 08, 08:14 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Joseph
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Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)
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Old October 19th 08, 08:26 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Joseph wrote:
Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)


The terrestrial HD channels proposed for the UK, will use the DVB-T2 standard.
The standard was only finalised in Aug/Sept 2008, so your receiver cannot
possibly be equipped for it.


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Old October 19th 08, 08:55 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Ian[_9_]
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"Joseph" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)


What do you understand by the term "HD"? It's very different to what you
might be thinking or misinterpreting from badly worded messages in other
groups.


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Old October 19th 08, 09:03 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Mark Carver
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Ian wrote:
"Joseph" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)


What do you understand by the term "HD"? It's very different to what you
might be thinking or misinterpreting from badly worded messages in other
groups.


The inability of present DVB-T1 receivers to be able to get the new HD
services has nothing to do with HD per se. DVB-T2 is a totally different
emission format, and the same would be true if it were to (and it can) carry
SD, audio, or data services.

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Old October 19th 08, 09:09 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Joseph" [email protected] wrote in message
...
Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)


It's DVB-S/S2/T and has the Mpeg2/4(h.264) decoders..
It can receive SatHD but not FreeviewHD.. FreeviewHD will come over DVB-T2,
FreesatHD will come over (for now) DVB-S and SHOULD migrate to DVB-S2... I
would say you have a good box as it's possible for HighDef to be broacast
over the DVB-T system (The original BBC Trials were) but I cant see them
doing HD over antyhing sub-DVB-T2

I would say this is an excellent box, and you should get a long time out of
it, Similar systems on PVR Pc's can be had for about the same price as that
box however.


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Old October 19th 08, 10:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Adrian[_3_]
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Joseph wrote:
Further to comments in another thread that STB#s and TV's are not
equiped with an HD tuner fot the new standard. I think mine
has.............
I have a Technomate TM-6900 HD COMBO receiver bought about 4 months
ago. It has 2 High Definition Tuners: DVB-S/DVB-S2 Satellite & DVB-T
Terrestrial Compliant (MPEG-2 / MPEG-4 / H.264)


Sadly you're mistaken, to recieve terrestrial HD you will need a DVB-T2
receiver which yours isn't and none are yet available.


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Old October 20th 08, 02:06 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 19 Okt., 21:03, Mark Carver wrote:
DVB-T2 is a totally different
emission format, and the same would be true if it were to (and it can) carry
SD, audio, or data services.


(and it should - eg. radio ) - IMHO.


Lars

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Old October 20th 08, 04:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:06:27 -0700, ReslFj wrote:
(and it should - eg. radio ) - IMHO.


How many European countries other than the UKofGB&NI
currently carry radio stations on their terrestrial multiplexes?

When the national multiplex was initially launched on VHF k7
in its testing phase in Letzebuerg, RTL radio was carried
but once analog switch off was accomplished, it soon
disappeared.

In Vlaanderen, the VRT's multiplex carries nine of the ten VRT
radio stations with the exception of RVI (which is carried on DAB).
Of course, there only being two video streams (één en KETNET/Canvas),
there is plenty of bandwidth to accomodate.

And talking of Vlaanderen, the PALplus transmissions are switched
off, next month on November 2nd and 3rd 2008, making this another
national region to go digital only, before the UKofGB&NI has managed
to switch off one region.

Similarly in Wallonie, the RTBF multiplex carries five of the RTBF
radio stations (La Une, La Deux, La Trois, et Euronews) plus BRF-1,
and four video streams (La Une, La Deux, La Trois, et Euronews).

Maybe other European countries think it is better to provide
as much possible bandwidth to the video streams in order to
achieve the best possible picture quality?
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Old October 20th 08, 05:12 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 20 Okt., 16:23, J G Miller wrote:
On Mon, 20 Oct 2008 05:06:27 -0700, ReslFj wrote:

* * (and it should - *eg. radio ) * - IMHO.

How many European countries other than the UKofGB&NI
currently carry radio stations on their terrestrial multiplexes?

Did I say anything about using the DTT multiplexes ?

I said that DVB-T2 should be used to carry radio
ie. transmitting audio streams, but not in DTT muxes.

The DVB-T2 standard can operate in 1.7 MHz VHF
channels - now called T-DAB channels. I DAB transmitter
can be changed to DVB-T2 just by changing the modulation
board and every DVB-T2/MPEG-4 STB + speakers will be a radio.

The point is that DVB-T2 will have about 2.5 times higher bit-rate
that DAB+ has at the same SNR. That translates into 2.5 more
radio stations and a 60% lower price of each station.

Everything will be possible in 9-12 months.

Lars



PS! Norway and Sweden has radio in their DTT muxes.

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Old October 20th 08, 05:23 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
J G Miller[_4_]
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Op Mandag, October 20th, 2008 08:12:07h -0700, ReslFj explained:

I said that DVB-T2 should be used to carry radio ie.
transmitting audio streams, but not in DTT muxes.


Thanks for the clarification.

The point is that DVB-T2 will have about 2.5 times higher bit-rate
that DAB+ has at the same SNR. That translates into 2.5 more radio
stations and a 60% lower price of each station.


But is anybody at the BBC/Digital One/OfCON listening
(viz taking note of the above)?

PS! Norway and Sweden has radio in their DTT muxes.


Thanks for the information.
 




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