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Old October 15th 08, 04:27 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Slider
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Default Routing co-ax down stud partition wall

Hi

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition). I
am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?


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Old October 15th 08, 05:33 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Routing co-ax down stud partition wall

Depends whether your stud wall has horizontal bracing pieces in it.
Otherwise maybe a plastic cable duct, you can direct it to the exit opening,
then pull cable through

"Slider" wrote in message ...
Hi

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition). I
am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?



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Old October 15th 08, 06:41 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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In article , Slider scribeth
thus
Hi

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition). I
am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?



Screwfix do as set of flexible rods which you should be able to poke up
things like stud walls unless their completely blocked..

Bit of a fiddle but usually can be done..
--
Tony Sayer


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Old October 15th 08, 06:54 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Default Routing co-ax down stud partition wall

"Slider" wrote in message ...
Hi

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition). I
am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?



I've done a lot of this recently.
I've just flood-filled my house with CT100 co-ax and cat6 networking.

In the loft, find the top of the partition wall.
If you can't figure out exactly where it is, poke your thinnest screwdriver
up through the plasterboard from below right where the wall meets the
ceiling at the position you want to wire to drop down. Find the
screwdriver in the loft to get your bearings.

Once you know where to drill, drill a generous size hole down through the
plasterboard and the top of the frame. this may take a surprisingly long
drill! This will take you into the cavity wall. ( or into the next room's
ceiling if you got it wrong! )

Poke a 'mouse' down into the cavity to test how far down you can get before
hitting a dwang. Ordinary retractable measuring tapes are OK for this, but
they can get 'hooked' inside the wall and need a bit of fiddling to get
loose. Otherwise, some old Twin+Earth mains cable, or the cap from some
narrow plastic trunking. Whatever you can find.

If you're lucky, you may get deep enough for your wall-mounted TV.
If not, you'll have to get past the dwang.

Cut the hole for the backing box wherever you want it. Take care not to
cut it too close to an upright if using a 'fastfix' box, you need to leave
room for the lugs to come out the side. If in doubt, poke a long
screwdriver through the plasterboard at centre of the proposed box position.
Poke it at an angle sideways left and right, probing for problematic
uprights. Move proposed box position accordingly.

If you need to cross a dwang, there's really no option but to carefully cut
a small patch out of the plasterboard around the dwang. Use a sharp stanely
knife. Carefully remove the section, we will replace it later. You can
fish the cable out from the upper cavity now. You need to cut a notch in
the dwang. I usually use a spade-type drill bit, and simply drill in from
the front to a depth of an inch or. A couple of these holes, one above the
other, is usually enough, once tidied up a bit with a padsaw or chisel. I
don't try to drill vertically through the dwang, because I don't have a
right-angled drill, and so I'd need to cut a stupidly big section of
plasterboard out to get the drill in about. If you have a right-angled
drill, it would probably make a neater job.

Pass the cable down through the notch, and fish it out at the final
destination.

Replace the section of plasterboard, using a couple of drywall screws into
the dwang. Take care not to screw it into the cable! Make good the
plasterboard repair.

--
Ron


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Old October 16th 08, 10:37 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Ron Lowe" ronATlowe-famlyDOTmeDOTukSPURIOUS wrote in message
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"Slider" wrote in message ...
Hi

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition).
I am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?



I've done a lot of this recently.
I've just flood-filled my house with CT100 co-ax and cat6 networking.

In the loft, find the top of the partition wall.
If you can't figure out exactly where it is, poke your thinnest
screwdriver up through the plasterboard from below right where the wall
meets the ceiling at the position you want to wire to drop down. Find
the screwdriver in the loft to get your bearings.

Once you know where to drill, drill a generous size hole down through the
plasterboard and the top of the frame. this may take a surprisingly long
drill! This will take you into the cavity wall. ( or into the next
room's ceiling if you got it wrong! )

Poke a 'mouse' down into the cavity to test how far down you can get
before hitting a dwang. Ordinary retractable measuring tapes are OK for
this, but they can get 'hooked' inside the wall and need a bit of fiddling
to get loose. Otherwise, some old Twin+Earth mains cable, or the cap from
some narrow plastic trunking. Whatever you can find.

If you're lucky, you may get deep enough for your wall-mounted TV.
If not, you'll have to get past the dwang.

Cut the hole for the backing box wherever you want it. Take care not to
cut it too close to an upright if using a 'fastfix' box, you need to leave
room for the lugs to come out the side. If in doubt, poke a long
screwdriver through the plasterboard at centre of the proposed box
position. Poke it at an angle sideways left and right, probing for
problematic uprights. Move proposed box position accordingly.

If you need to cross a dwang, there's really no option but to carefully
cut a small patch out of the plasterboard around the dwang. Use a sharp
stanely knife. Carefully remove the section, we will replace it later.
You can fish the cable out from the upper cavity now. You need to cut a
notch in the dwang. I usually use a spade-type drill bit, and simply
drill in from the front to a depth of an inch or. A couple of these
holes, one above the other, is usually enough, once tidied up a bit with a
padsaw or chisel. I don't try to drill vertically through the dwang,
because I don't have a right-angled drill, and so I'd need to cut a
stupidly big section of plasterboard out to get the drill in about. If
you have a right-angled drill, it would probably make a neater job.

Pass the cable down through the notch, and fish it out at the final
destination.

Replace the section of plasterboard, using a couple of drywall screws into
the dwang. Take care not to screw it into the cable! Make good the
plasterboard repair.

--
Ron



Thanks very much for that Ron, much appreciated. I am not having a
faceplate for the co-ax, just going to feed the cable through the wall then
into the tv. That way, I get a 'cleaner' signal. TV will be hung approx
two thirds the way up the wall, so hopefully I won't encounter any noggins
(or dwangs as you call them). Should be able to locate the cavity from the
loft as there is already an aerial point in that wall which enters from the
loft. I just don't want to use it as it's close to the bottom of the wall
and don't want cables trailing everywhere.


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Old October 16th 08, 11:13 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Dave Plowman (News)
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Default Routing co-ax down stud partition wall

In article ,
Slider wrote:
I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition).
I am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the
stud partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best
way of getting the cable down the stud wall?


Stud walls usually have a 'plate' top and bottom and cross pieces called
noggins between the studs - to add rigidity and prevent twisting.

You can usually drill vertically through the plate to get inside the
wall, but the only way to get round a noggin is to cut a hole in the
plasterboard and fill afterwards. Of course you may be lucky and not have
a noggin in the part you need - they're *usually* roughly 1/3rd and 2/3rd
up the wall. A stud finder can be useful to locate them.

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Dave Plowman London SW
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Old October 16th 08, 06:46 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 16 Oct,
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote:


You can usually drill vertically through the plate to get inside the
wall, but the only way to get round a noggin is to cut a hole in the
plasterboard and fill afterwards. Of course you may be lucky and not
have a noggin in the part you need - they're *usually* roughly 1/3rd
and 2/3rd up the wall. A stud finder can be useful to locate them.


I've managed to drill down from the loft through noggins with a long
drill (well, a short drill fastened to an extender (a length of pipe).


There's dedication for you. ;-) Trying to fiddle the cable through the
hole is the next hurdle. Although I suppose if you've got it vertical a
mouse might work.
I usually just knock a hole in the plasterboard over the noggin.

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*A person who smiles in the face of adversity probably has a scapegoat *

Dave Plowman London SW
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Old October 16th 08, 10:07 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Peter Crosland
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Default Routing co-ax down stud partition wall

I will be mounting my small LCD tv on my bedroom wall (stud partition). I
am wanting to get some co-ax cable from the loft, down through the stud
partition wall to exist directly behind the tv. What is the best way of
getting the cable down the stud wall?



Whatever method you use remember that coax is not nearly as robust as
ordinary electrical cable. It is very susceptible to damage, that may not be
obvious from the outside, by kinking. This can cause a significant reduction
in the signal. If possible use a duct with as few sharp corners as possible.

Peter Crosland


 




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