iplayer on TV

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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.

That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

I haven't actually tried doing it, but I think grumps was meaning the
SVideo output from the graphics card directly into the AV input of a
standalone DVD recorder, any reason why that wouldn't work?

No, I really meant that you can remove the DRM and burn a DVD on your PC for
playing later.

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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.

That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

I haven't actually tried doing it, but I think grumps was meaning the
SVideo output from the graphics card directly into the AV input of a
standalone DVD recorder, any reason why that wouldn't work?

No, I really meant that you can remove the DRM and burn a DVD on your PC
for playing later.



Right, thing is I used to download radio programs I wanted to listen to in a
format and at time that suited 'my' individual requirements, i.e. as
downloaded Net transport .rm file converted into mp3, which allowed me to
listen to it when and where 'I' chose.. usually in bed during one of my
frequent bouts of insomnia on my mp3 player, of course the ability to be
able to do that has now all but disappeared, however apparently if one is
prepared to record in real time then a program I've heard about called
Audiograbber (which includes a timer and the ability to alter compression
settings) will allegedly convert the streaming audio directly into an mp3
file, so from a quality or inconvenience point of view there would
apparently be little problem there then.

Slightly different problem with certain kinds of streaming video though, but
assuming that one wants to watch it on say a small 7 inch LCD portable DVD
player or a pocket PC as something like an mp4 file on and SD storage card,
strictly for personal use, again at a 'time and in a format that actually
suited the viewer', then one would assume that if it would work OK then an
SVideo quality recording would be more than adequate, especially given that
the original video stream is hardly going to be anywhere near that of DVD
anyway.

On Sep 1, 6:50*pm, "R. Mark Clayton"
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No conversion is needed; just a DVI - HDMI cable, but some TVs can be
"awkward" about displaying PC resolutions.

Obviously you will have to pick one it supports (as with any monitor).

It's not just a question of whether the TV can sync to a particular
resolution - there are other potential problems with using a PC on
many HDTVs:
Firstly, the PC may not output the display's native LCD panel res of
1366x768. Many PC's will output 1360x768, however, and some LCD HDTVs
are smart enough to add three columns of black pixels on each side of
the screen when they are used with this mode, which avoids rescaling
artefacts on the image.
Other LCD HDTVs have very poor support for PCs - the worst examples
I've seen added overscan on all modes when a PC was used with the HDMI
input, making it unusable by cropping the edges, and would only
display 1024x768 with black
bars either side with the VGA input.


plus
there is no sound in DVI so you will have to route that separately (to
your
AV amp?)

Or the TV's analogue audio input located next to its VGA connector.

If it even has one! *Might depend on the model a bit where the connectors
are. *E.g. Philips - VGA at rear, phono sound at side.

The sound jacks at the side is for use with another input (side-
mounted composite/s-video).
All the HDTVs I've seen have a 3.5mm audio line-in jack next to the
VGA connector and they will use this input for computer audio when
being fed a DVI signal via HDMI input.

On Sep 1, 6:38*pm, "Grumps" wrote:
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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.
That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

Well if that's what fairuse4wm does, then it works for me. Quick too.

Does it still work? I thought they'd updated the encryption.

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On Sep 1, 6:38 pm, "Grumps" wrote:
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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.
That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

Well if that's what fairuse4wm does, then it works for me. Quick too.

Does it still work? I thought they'd updated the encryption.

They appear to update the encryption regularly and then there's a game of
catch-up.
The last time I tried was the end of July, so there could be more hurdles
now. I'll have a quick check.

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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.

That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

Purely as an experiment, I took the Svid (with separate audio leads) output
from my graphics card into the auxiliary input of a standalone DVD recorder,
I configured the player for play high quality, full screen mode and then
recorded part of a program, on playback I zoomed the screen size on my 32
inch LCD down to around 24 inches, the picture was rock solid and from a
normal viewing distance appeared to be every bit as good if not better than
a VCR.
No transcoding, or hacking to remove the DRM.

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On Sep 1, 6:38 pm, "Grumps" wrote:
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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.
That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

Well if that's what fairuse4wm does, then it works for me. Quick too.

Does it still work? I thought they'd updated the encryption.

They appear to update the encryption regularly and then there's a game of
catch-up.
The last time I tried was the end of July, so there could be more hurdles
now. I'll have a quick check.

I just downloaded a 500Meg file and the no-DRM technique still works. It
took about 2.5 minutes to strip the DRM.

"Chris J Dixon" wrote in message
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Is there an easy way to watch downloaded iplayer programmes on my
TV, which is in an adjacent room to my PC.

I am running Vista Home Premium, and my PC has a DVD writer.

My TV setup is:
Panasonic TV: 2 SCART, 1 HDMI
Panasonic DVR: 2 SCART 1 HDMI
Humax PVR: 2 SCART

Chris
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Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK


Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh.

Do you have a Nintendo Wii and Wireless broadband? If so, you can watch BBC
iplayer from the Wii.

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On Sep 1, 11:23 am, "Grumps" wrote:

Or if it's something you want to keep, just burn it to DVD.

That would require transcoding, and hacking to remove the DRM.

I haven't actually tried doing it, but I think grumps was meaning
the
SVideo output from the graphics card directly into the AV input of
a
standalone DVD recorder, any reason why that wouldn't work?

No, I really meant that you can remove the DRM and burn a DVD on
your PC
for playing later.



Right, thing is I used to download radio programs I wanted to listen
to
in a format and at time that suited 'my' individual requirements,
i.e. as
downloaded Net transport .rm file converted into mp3, which allowed
me to
listen to it when and where 'I' chose.. usually in bed during one of
my
frequent bouts of insomnia on my mp3 player, of course the ability
to be
able to do that has now all but disappeared,


If you go to the web page on the BBC iPlayer website for the programme
you want to download and right-click and View Source (in Firefox) and
search for ".ram" you can find the URL of the Real Player listen again
stream.

It is possible to download the new Flash listen again radio streams if
you've got the right software as well, but it's a bit of messing
around to get the audio, because you have to extract the MP3 audio
from the FLV file once it's downloaded, and the BBC is going to switch
to using AAC/AAC+ soon anyway, and I'm not aware of any software that
can extract AAC/AAC+ from FLV.



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Steve - www.digitalradiotech.co.uk - Digital Radio News & Info

The adoption of DAB was the most incompetent technical
decision ever made in the history of UK broadcasting:
http://www.digitalradiotech.co.uk/da...ion_of_dab.htm

On Mon, 01 Sep 2008 21:57:46 +0100, JR wrote:

Chris J Dixon wrote:
Is there an easy way to watch downloaded iplayer programmes on my
TV, which is in an adjacent room to my PC.

I am running Vista Home Premium, and my PC has a DVD writer.

My TV setup is:
Panasonic TV: 2 SCART, 1 HDMI
Panasonic DVR: 2 SCART 1 HDMI
Humax PVR: 2 SCART

Chris

Xbox360 - Not sure about the downloaded side of things but you can watch
streamed shows (it requires an mce plugin on your pc).

I agree. Yes, it can play downloaded programs with no issues.