24 fps, blue ray and my telly.

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see that
the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps capable
TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only because it
is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be the "less than
true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose to purchase and
play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something that will irritate me or
something I could put up with (subjective, I know - but any contribution
gratefully accepted!).

Chas

On 20/08/2008 09:04, Chas Gill wrote:

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see
that the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps
capable TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only
because it is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be the
"less than true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose to
purchase and play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something that
will irritate me or something I could put up with (subjective, I know -
but any contribution gratefully accepted!).

Every 24th frame will be displayed twice to make 50 fields per second,
so playback will have a glitch once a second rather than being smooth.

On 2008-08-20 09:22:14 +0100, Andy Burns
said:

On 20/08/2008 09:04, Chas Gill wrote:

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see
that the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps
capable TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only
because it is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be
the "less than true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose
to purchase and play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something
that will irritate me or something I could put up with (subjective, I
know - but any contribution gratefully accepted!).

Every 24th frame will be displayed twice to make 50 fields per second,
so playback will have a glitch once a second rather than being smooth.

My new Viera has a 24fps option but I haven't figured out when to use
it yet. Should it be activated for all Blu Ray movies or only those
which display a 24fps flag? Presumably the Blu Ray set of a TV series,
such as Planet Earth, won't benefit from 24fps? TIA.

Stan

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On 2008-08-20 09:22:14 +0100, Andy Burns
said:

On 20/08/2008 09:04, Chas Gill wrote:

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see
that the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps
capable TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only
because it is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be the
"less than true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose to
purchase and play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something that
will irritate me or something I could put up with (subjective, I know -
but any contribution gratefully accepted!).

Every 24th frame will be displayed twice to make 50 fields per second, so
playback will have a glitch once a second rather than being smooth.

My new Viera has a 24fps option but I haven't figured out when to use it
yet. Should it be activated for all Blu Ray movies or only those which
display a 24fps flag? Presumably the Blu Ray set of a TV series, such as
Planet Earth, won't benefit from 24fps? TIA.


All BD movies play at 24fps (you'll notice that a BD film will run a few
minutes longer than the same film on PAL DVD, which is 25fps).

On 2008-08-20 12:58:46 +0100, "Brian W"
said:


"Stan The Man" wrote in message
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On 2008-08-20 09:22:14 +0100, Andy Burns
said:

On 20/08/2008 09:04, Chas Gill wrote:

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see
that the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps
capable TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only
because it is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be
the "less than true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose
to purchase and play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something
that will irritate me or something I could put up with (subjective, I
know - but any contribution gratefully accepted!).

Every 24th frame will be displayed twice to make 50 fields per second,
so playback will have a glitch once a second rather than being smooth.

My new Viera has a 24fps option but I haven't figured out when to use
it yet. Should it be activated for all Blu Ray movies or only those
which display a 24fps flag? Presumably the Blu Ray set of a TV series,
such as Planet Earth, won't benefit from 24fps? TIA.


All BD movies play at 24fps (you'll notice that a BD film will run a
few minutes longer than the same film on PAL DVD, which is 25fps).

Thanks. Wondering now if I can just leave this option ticked
permanently: presumably the Viera will only use it when it detects
suitable material?

Stan

Have you not noticed that for most of our lives, any music in films is just
slightly jarringly, in some cases, too fast?

I imagine this is an attempt to get over this problem.

Brian

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On 2008-08-20 09:22:14 +0100, Andy Burns
said:

On 20/08/2008 09:04, Chas Gill wrote:

From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see
that the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps
capable TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only
because it is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be
the "less than true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose
to purchase and play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something
that will irritate me or something I could put up with (subjective, I
know - but any contribution gratefully accepted!).

Every 24th frame will be displayed twice to make 50 fields per second,
so playback will have a glitch once a second rather than being smooth.

My new Viera has a 24fps option but I haven't figured out when to use it
yet. Should it be activated for all Blu Ray movies or only those which
display a 24fps flag? Presumably the Blu Ray set of a TV series, such as
Planet Earth, won't benefit from 24fps? TIA.


All BD movies play at 24fps (you'll notice that a BD film will run a few
minutes longer than the same film on PAL DVD, which is 25fps).

"Chas Gill" wrote in message
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From reading some stuff here and also in recent ads for new TVs I see that
the only way to get a "true cinema experience" is to have a 24fps capable
TV. I don't think my Sony Bravia 2000 series has this, if only because it
is a boasted feature on the 4000 series. So what will be the "less than
true cinema experience" that I will have should I choose to purchase and
play a Blue Ray player through it? Is it something that will irritate me
or something I could put up with (subjective, I know - but any
contribution gratefully accepted!).

Chas






your eyes will tell you that.
if 24fps capable tvs didn''t exist, would you be happy with how your tv
looks?
if the answer is yes, just accept that there will always be a more expensive
tv than you own.



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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
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Have you not noticed that for most of our lives, any music in films is
just slightly jarringly, in some cases, too fast?

I imagine this is an attempt to get over this problem.



that's PAL speedup - you won't get that with a 24fps source unless they
screw up with the mastering.



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that fly...... is your magic wand....

The dog from that film you saw wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
Have you not noticed that for most of our lives, any music in films is
just slightly jarringly, in some cases, too fast?

I imagine this is an attempt to get over this problem.



that's PAL speedup - you won't get that with a 24fps source unless they
screw up with the mastering.

To be totally accurate (after all this is Usenet) it's speed-up for any 25 fps
TV system, and has nothing to do with PAL or any other colour encoding system.


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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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The dog from that film you saw wrote:

"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
Have you not noticed that for most of our lives, any music in films is
just slightly jarringly, in some cases, too fast?

I imagine this is an attempt to get over this problem.



that's PAL speedup - you won't get that with a 24fps source unless they
screw up with the mastering.

To be totally accurate (after all this is Usenet) it's speed-up for any 25
fps TV system, and has nothing to do with PAL or any other colour encoding
system.




i assumed he was viewing PAL material....


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Gareth.

that fly...... is your magic wand....