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Old August 17th 08, 12:49 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of time on
them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in town?
OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but nothing surely
is going to work as well as analogue, and the thought of a dish that gets
freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit beyond the current
technology.
I was reminded of this on a recent tv series that escapes me just now,
where a guy on a boat in the Thames estuary was watching coronation street
when he should have been watching where his boat was going...

Not that I'm suggesting people really do this of course!

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Old August 17th 08, 01:31 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Andy Burns[_4_]
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On 17/08/2008 11:49, Brian Gaff wrote:

a dish that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat
is probably a bit beyond the current technology.


I've seen satellite dishes on narrowboats.


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Old August 17th 08, 01:34 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Jim Lesurf[_2_]
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In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of
time on them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in
town? OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but
nothing surely is going to work as well as analogue,


Your "surely" may be incorrect. :-)

Once the power level and 8k changes are made I'd suspect that in general
reception in covered areas may well be rather more reliable with DTTV than
it was with 'analogue'.

and the thought of a dish that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is
probably a bit beyond the current technology.


If by "current technology" you mean a passive disc bolted to a moving boat,
then you may be right.

Of course there are other approaches, but I have no idea if they will be
marketed for people on boats, etc. Although perhaps some people will simply
shove a post into the riverbed or bank to mount the antenna, and allow the
cable to take up the movement of the boat when moored. Probably simpler to
use DTTV in most cases, I assume.

Slainte,

Jim

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Old August 17th 08, 03:22 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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On 17 Aug, 11:49, "Brian Gaff" wrote:
If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of time on
them, what *is going to happen when digital is the only game in town?
OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but nothing surely
is going to work as well as analogue, and the thought of a dish that gets
freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit beyond the current
technology.
I was *reminded of this on a recent tv series that escapes me just now,
where a guy on a boat *in the Thames estuary was watching coronation street
when he should have been watching where his boat was going...

Not that I'm suggesting people really do this of course!

Brian

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Old August 17th 08, 05:18 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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Brian Gaff wrote:
If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of time on
them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in town?
OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but nothing surely
is going to work as well as analogue, and the thought of a dish that gets
freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit beyond the current
technology.
I was reminded of this on a recent tv series that escapes me just now,
where a guy on a boat in the Thames estuary was watching coronation street
when he should have been watching where his boat was going...

Not that I'm suggesting people really do this of course!

Brian


DVB-H would be an option but with restrictions on quality. The necessary
equipment would have to be available. Maybe sometime soon...

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Old August 17th 08, 08:57 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Bill Wright
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 17/08/2008 11:49, Brian Gaff wrote:

a dish that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit
beyond the current technology.


I've seen satellite dishes on narrowboats.


Friends of our have a very small motorhome, with a dish on the roof. Before
aligning the dish the lady always has to sit where she is going to watch TV,
because at 20 stone her location affects the orientation of the van.

Bill


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Old August 17th 08, 08:59 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Brian Gaff" wrote in message
m...
If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of time
on them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in town?
OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but nothing
surely is going to work as well as analogue, and the thought of a dish
that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit beyond the
current technology.


I don't think it will make much difference. Most motorhome owners who don't
use satellite use DTT and think nothing of it, accepting that they have to
switch to analogue in places where the local relay doesn't have digi.

Bill


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Old August 18th 08, 11:50 AM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
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"Brian Gaff" wrote

If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of time
on them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in town?
OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but nothing
surely is going to work as well as analogue, and the thought of a dish
that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit beyond the
current technology.



Well, yes, but when my narrowboat is moored up, our satellite signal is very
tolerant of any rolling movement caused by passing boats, people moving
about, etc.
The main problem is ensuring a clear "view" of the satellite. Canals and
rivers tend to be in cuttings with trees, so analogue is usually a non
starter, satellite a better bet, but most of the time we end up watching a
DVD or reading a book!


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Old August 18th 08, 12:17 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Isn't this what those crank down legs are supposed to be for?

As for narrow boats, well just imagining them cuddled up watching some
porn from the sat and decide to try some,um experimentation.

Oh dear, where did the signal go?

Seriously, what a bout a gyro stabilised platform?

Brian

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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
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"Andy Burns" wrote in message
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On 17/08/2008 11:49, Brian Gaff wrote:

a dish that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is probably a bit
beyond the current technology.


I've seen satellite dishes on narrowboats.


Friends of our have a very small motorhome, with a dish on the roof.
Before aligning the dish the lady always has to sit where she is going to
watch TV, because at 20 stone her location affects the orientation of the
van.

Bill



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Old August 18th 08, 12:19 PM posted to uk.tech.digital-tv
Brian Gaff
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Adaptive flat panel arrays controlled by computer for phase etc, might work
as well as a dish if one could get the space with all around views.

Brian

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"Jim Lesurf" wrote in message
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In article , Brian Gaff
wrote:
If you are the sort of person who lives on boats, or spends a lot of
time on them, what is going to happen when digital is the only game in
town? OK, I suppose one might get some sort of Freeview signal, but
nothing surely is going to work as well as analogue,


Your "surely" may be incorrect. :-)

Once the power level and 8k changes are made I'd suspect that in general
reception in covered areas may well be rather more reliable with DTTV than
it was with 'analogue'.

and the thought of a dish that gets freesat on a moving rocking boat is
probably a bit beyond the current technology.


If by "current technology" you mean a passive disc bolted to a moving
boat,
then you may be right.

Of course there are other approaches, but I have no idea if they will be
marketed for people on boats, etc. Although perhaps some people will
simply
shove a post into the riverbed or bank to mount the antenna, and allow the
cable to take up the movement of the boat when moored. Probably simpler to
use DTTV in most cases, I assume.

Slainte,

Jim

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