250,000 freeview boxes not working?

Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

B2003

Boltar wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

Not a 2k/8k thing, but rather the split NIT.

See the current thread; 'What made 1% of Freeview boxes "stop working"?'

"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

Not a 2k/8k thing, but rather the split NIT.

See the current thread; 'What made 1% of Freeview boxes "stop working"?'

Link to article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html

On 14/08/2008 10:51, Commander Gideon wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html

What a completely *useless* article!

"At that time no-one could conceive that this would happen"

Apart, that is, from every other manufacturer before and since whose
boxes have coped with the change by meeting the full specification.

Andy Burns wrote:
On 14/08/2008 10:51, Commander Gideon wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html


What a completely *useless* article!

"At that time no-one could conceive that this would happen"

Apart, that is, from every other manufacturer before and since whose
boxes have coped with the change by meeting the full specification.

The full sentence adds :
".......and we certainly had no intention of selling boxes that would
not work in a few years' time.'"

AIUI they laughed at the idea of producing a box that actually fully met
the published standard! They were too busy rushing to market.

And the previous statement :

"Daewoo commercial manager Scott Purdom said: 'The two boxes from Daewoo
that were affected were made before the digital tick logo, which set a
standard for digital TV (in 2004)."

NO! Use of the digital tick required manufacturers to meet the
standard set in 1996?

Richard

Nit is a very unfortunate abbreviation I always thought in this case

I can just imagine in the future, 2,000 die as pacemaker software updated.

Sorry, I have an evil mind today.

Brian

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Boltar wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

Not a 2k/8k thing, but rather the split NIT.

See the current thread; 'What made 1% of Freeview boxes "stop working"?'

Well I said when it first broke on here that the Freeview consortium had
done a crap job of keeping the public informed about this potential cock,
erm upgrade.

Brian

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Boltar wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

Not a 2k/8k thing, but rather the split NIT.

See the current thread; 'What made 1% of Freeview boxes "stop working"?'

Link to article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html

Yeah, but assuming they know the number of people it might affect,
effectively saying nothing was, in my view just taking the **** out of the
viewers.

You don't matter dear viewer, you can just spend that dosh and buy another,
best not say anything before hand then, in case they notice and try to get
a new box subsidised by us.

This crap about the tick symbol is complete rot, if someone had had their
eye n the proper type approval the boxes would never have got to the public
in an unfixable condition to work on the system

I'd also like to know why they did not start of with a split nit even if it
was not strictly needed then. After all, when teletext came out we had many
test pages to make sure the decoders did their job!

Brian

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On 14/08/2008 10:51, Commander Gideon wrote:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html

What a completely *useless* article!

"At that time no-one could conceive that this would happen"

Apart, that is, from every other manufacturer before and since whose boxes
have coped with the change by meeting the full specification.

"Commander Gideon" wrote in message
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"Mark Carver" wrote in message
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Boltar wrote:
Sorry if this has already been discussed on here but I read in the
paper today that a load of freeview boxes have stopped working. Why?
Have they switched all multiplexes from 2K to 8K or is it some other
reason?

Not a 2k/8k thing, but rather the split NIT.

See the current thread; 'What made 1% of Freeview boxes "stop working"?'

Link to article

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-obsolete.html

"'It is an unfortunate consequence of technology evolving."

No it's not, it's rank bad planning by someone (probably not the people who
made the box).

In my sector we make such network upgrades all the time (well not literally)
and the first rule is that they are backwards compatible. It's not rocket
science, it's graduate entry level engineering.

tim

tim..... wrote:

In my sector we make such network upgrades all the time (well not literally)
and the first rule is that they are backwards compatible. It's not rocket
science, it's graduate entry level engineering.

As is reading the DVB-T spec (not changed since 1996) properly in the first place.

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